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    Savage 10, firing with bolt not fully closed, can it happen?

    On another forum a member posted about a Rem 700 possibly firing with bolt not fully closed.
    "It’s REM 700 and what I think happened is the bolt was not shut all the way."

    this of course has created a "discussion".
    Is this a concern with the Savage action?

    Not to create a long heated discussion, but what's the likelihood of this happening?
    Freeze this thread if it gets out of hand.

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    normally trigger not set properly
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    I don’t believe it’s possible for the Savage to fire out of battery. Though I’m not positive. I would have to go look at it.

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    Most on that other forum didn't think the 700 would either.
    They got into a good argument/discussion blaming everything.

    With the Savage partial engagement of the lugs would prevent anything drastic from happening, and the cocking ramp will close the bolt for you and maybe have enough force to pop the round.
    Keeping my (the wife's) safety blade and staying away from pull weights of a few ounces.
    Doubtful.

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    Well, just look at the 110’s operation. The firing pin cannot fall until the bolt is rotated almost all the way (thus having near full lug lockup), giving the hand off ​of the Cocking Piece Pin from the Bolt Shelf to the Sear/Bolt Release.

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    So the Remington 700 cocking ramp will not restrict firing pin fall but the ramp on the savage will?
    The Dunning-Kruger effect is alive and well.

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    Yeah I saw that same thread. I too do not think it can happen with a Savage.

    I also don’t think that’s what happened to that guys Remington but we will probably never know. The bolt didn’t come back and smack him in the face. The bullet hit the same POI as his other normal rounds but were 150fps slower. The brass was fine. The only damage was a blown primer(blown out of the primer pocket) and a messed up bolt head. Not to mention his gunsmith thinks there was a barrel blockage(even though the bullet POI was good on target)?

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    I haven’t seen the thread yous are speaking of. Where was it?

    Edit: Nevermind, I found it. After reading, what the guy is saying is nonsense. He simply had the same problem as when a trigger is way too light and the bolt is slammed home. Wouldn’t surprise me if he had a back job done on his trigger. But the problem was not firing out of lug engagement. That can’t happen as I had previously thought. The gun had a firing pin follow the bolt closing. In other words, the Sear let go. And I doubt it happened while it on safe. Think he’s remembering it wrong, or simply telling it wrong.

    Or, he pulled the trigger and has the need to confess it happened, but is covering up his error. And before anyone thinks that doesn’t happen, there is a BONAFIDE need for many individuals who are involved in a negligent discharge, to confess it happened. I’ve come across several who flat out tell the tale 100%! But others, while needing to tell the firearm discharged, still can’t face their own stupidity. So they lie. Make it be the Guns fault!

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