110 APEX Hunter XP vs 110 Hunter

**TakDriver** · 11-11-2023, 06:39 AM

Hello there, new member but have been around awhile and have read and enjoyed this site for many years. No question this site is 'the' most comprehensive on Savage firearms on the world wide web. Even Savage Arms directs people here.

My question is, I searched and read the Savage website and cannot seem to understand the difference between these two rifles 110 APEX Hunter XP vs 110 Hunter, other than the length of barrel and slight stock difference. I'm referring to the barrel and action specifically, not the accoutrements like scope mount and rings. The action and barrel seem to be identical. Or perhaps those 'are' the only differences (barrel length and stock design) and I'm over thinking it.

The real confusion for me is the 110 APEX comes with extras, yet it's $150 cheaper. Any light shed on this brain twister would greatly be appreciated.

**pdog06** · 11-11-2023, 08:24 AM

Yeah it’s definitely weird cause you’d expect a package gun to be more money.

The Apex Hunter XP has the EGW scope base and Vortex Crossfire scope, but has the factory cheap plastic stock.
The 110 Hunter has no optics, but has the Accufit Accustock.
The action and barrel are basically the same, even in some calibers one might be shorter but that shouldn’t affect price really.

So I don’t think you’re overthinking it. You’d think the scoped package would be higher, but that just tells you how much Savage values their accufit stock.

**Dave Hoback** · 11-11-2023, 10:04 AM

You aren’t over thinking, but it makes perfect sense when it’s thought about from a different perspective. They do share an identical Action. However, all 110s do. The only differences in new Actions being Long or Short, Large or Small Shank & TBR or BBR Bolt Release. (There is also the Open & Port style Actions although that changes nothing for fitment) The Apex with its cheap plastic stock & scope are one of the Value models Savage does. The scope & rail aren’t really extras. They are basically throw-aways. Once a person becomes serious about their rifle, that stock & scope will be the first things to go. A Big Box outfit like Savage buys these scopes & rails for pennies on the dollar. But the Accufit system; now that is an actual investment for them. They had to put considerable money into R&D, pay likely several engineers & the money into testing. R&D for new product is quite expensive.

Does that make it easier to understand?

**TakDriver** · 11-11-2023, 10:35 AM

So it's the stock that really makes up the difference - scope/mounts/rings add marginally. I didn't realize the stock was that much more in terms of quality and fit. Thanks or the replies, gentleman. Fyi, my goto is a Sako 7mm RM, but I'm considering an inexpensive light(ish) bolt action for white tail and these two models checked the boxes.

**Turkeytider** · 11-11-2023, 12:18 PM

I`ll say this, for an introductory, very first rifle, my 110 APEX Storm in .223 has been perfect for me. Because I found the combs to be too low for me ( non-Accufit, obviously ), I simply added strap on pads. I did that also with my Model 12 LRPV which is hardly an introductory gun.
As we all know, the Crossfire II is hardly a top of line Vortex scope, but it has served me well for the intended purpose ( rifle intro, range fun, occasional coyote hunt ).
For a relatively inexpensive, light(ish ) bolt action for white tail, I think both guns could do the job fine in an appropriate caliber.

**Chris_in_Idaho** · 11-13-2023, 04:58 AM

You guys are covering the Accufit part of the stock, referring the swappable LOP and cheek pieces, but isn't a more substantial difference the "Accustock" full length Aluminum bedding block? Is there also a difference in the bottom metal and magazine with metal vs plastic?

**Chris_in_Idaho** · 11-13-2023, 12:35 PM

For the record I was going to send this via PM but TakDriver doesn't have enough posts for PMs yet. So please nobody take this as spamming YT videos on the forum.

TakDriver, I believe the Apex XP gets the same or very similar stock to the Lightweight Storm. Starting at 4:08 in this video is a close up comparison between that stock and an Accustock.