Need help

[Gun builder]

I got a 1987 model 110e 22-250 I need a entire bolt what all do I need to put it back together I believe it is a medium action

[pdog06]

You are correct. It should be a medium action( action screw spacing of 4.522”).
If so Unfortunately nobody is gonna have one of those bolts in stock because those actions went out of production 35 years ago.
Possibly Sharpshooter Supply or Stockade might have one lying around just cause they mostly work on Savages? Maybe Numrich?

Where’s the bolt that came with the action?

verify action screw spacing to be sure that’s the one you need.

[pdog06]

Here. This looks like the bare bolt body you need. Not sure where you’d find the firing pin assembly though.

https://www.gunpartscorp.com/products/999000a

[Dave Hoback]

A standard SA spring assembly should work as it’s adjustable. And all the other parts are the same. Also, the Read Baffle listed below is the Round Back type. And your Action has a Flat Back. You can simply mark & cut off that round portion to match the Action.

EDIT: That bolt sleeve won’t work. It’s the Pre’66 Bolt Sleeve with the cross pin hole drilled the opposite of the newer style bolt head orientation.

Below are All the parts required, in addition to getting the Bolt Sleeve.

Firing Pin parts
https://www.gunshack.com/savage-part...10-11-12-14-16

https://www.gunshack.com/savage-parts?product_id=2897

https://www.gunshack.com/savage-parts?product_id=2894

https://www.gunshack.com/savage-part...-retaining-pin

Bolt Head & Bolt Parts.
https://www.gunshack.com/savage-part...60-338-federal

https://www.gunshack.com/savage-part...roduct_id=1986

https://www.gunshack.com/savage-part...roduct_id=1987

https://www.gunshack.com/savage-part...roduct_id=1988

https://www.gunshack.com/savage-part...head-parts-kit

[Dave Hoback]

I forgot the Bolt Handle, but you can choose either stock or aftermarket to your liking.

[Dave Hoback]

This might be the correct Bolt Sleeve? I’m not positive.

https://www.gunpartscorp.com/products/1400940a


And forgot the Cocking Piece Pin. BTW: many of these parts are available at GunShack & Numrich. Unfortunately, not all parts are available at one or the other. Well, maybe all are at Numrich, but many will be used vs new at the same price. Your call though.
https://www.gunpartscorp.com/products/1354170e

[sharpshooter]

110 short action uses it's own firing pin assembly......nothing else will fit.

[pdog06]

110 short action uses it's own firing pin assembly......nothing else will fit.

Yep. Thanks Fred.

[Dave Hoback]

Be interesting to see one. Parts all look the same on schematics. What’s the difference? (I haven’t been inside one of the 1st Gen SA’s, just the LA’s of those years.) But I’m gonna bet a person could make it work with the parts at hand. Just as the 1-piece & 2-piece firing pin systems can be swapped back & forth, a Stagger Feed can be turned into a Center Feed w/ magazine & a Pre-66 can be retrofit with post-66 parts, I’m wondering what would stop this from happening?

[Dave Hoback]

Here ya go. Found the Firing pin anyway. Just need the parts like the Cocking Piece, washers & stop nut, all of which are the same. Except it’s a Large diameter pin.

https://www.gunpartscorp.com/products/1401120a

[dillwt]

This might be the correct Bolt Sleeve? I’m not positive.

https://www.gunpartscorp.com/products/1400940a


And forgot the Cocking Piece Pin. BTW: many of these parts are available at GunShack & Numrich. Unfortunately, not all parts are available at one or the other. Well, maybe all are at Numrich, but many will be used vs new at the same price. Your call though.
https://www.gunpartscorp.com/products/1354170e

Dave, that is the correct bolt body. The bolt head in those 1st generation actions are the same as for the long action. Don't buy a 2nd or 3rd gen short action bolt head.




Left is 1st gen bolt head, middle is recent long action Bolt Head, Right is 2nd Gen short action Bolt head.



Firing pin is unique, to the 1st Gen Short action. It is approx. 4.7 inches long. Numrich has them.

Unless he can turn the firing pin down to .1 inches for the new bolt heads he will need an old style bolt head and cross pin. Should be easy given the are actually long action parts.

1st gen bolt body is 5.455 in length on mine, not including the tabs for the bolt handle.

[Dave Hoback]

Yes, thank you dillwt. I found the firing pin and posted the link. (Post #10).

Ok, the difference is it uses a LA Bolt Head. A current adjustable firing pin is slightly shorter. So using a new LA bolt head & new SA firing pin would work by accounting for the extra length. Using a Lift Kit may be enough. Or perhaps with a spacer. The other options are having the pin from post #10 turned down. (I could do that & for free, although not as high precision as say, Desh can do for a small price.) Or, use an older LA bolt head, like you said, for the larger diameter firing pin.

But mixing & matching a few parts, or maybe have a part turned down or drilled out & I know it can be done. But to just throw out a statement. “Nothing else will work.” isn’t exactly correct.

[sharpshooter]

Nothing else will work......that firing pin is a length between a short and a long. You cannot adjust either it to work for this length. Been there, done that, long ago. If you cannot find one, you'll have to make one from scratch. The spring needs 23 coils.

[Dave Hoback]

Springs don’t work based on number of coils. They work based on load, Spring Rate & Preload. Regardless of it being 23, 21, or 24 coils! LOL!

[Blue Avenger]

Springs don’t work based on number of coils. They work based on load, Spring Rate & Preload. Regardless of it being 23, 21, or 24 coils! LOL!

length of a pre existing spring cut to length Dave, your over thinking it.