May have an opportunity to begin shooting some mid-range ( up to 500 yards ) target ranges. Most of the posts I`ve seen concerning this model have been fairly old and I`m hoping for some more current input, whether positive or negative. Thanks very much in advance for any feedback.
What are you looking for as far as info? Do you have one of these already, interested in getting one? What caliper & cartridge are you looking at?
As far as being a target rifle, that is the purpose of the 12LRPV. It uses the single shot, 3-screw port Action. Large Shank. The current version is Right Hand Bolt, Left side Eject, although older LRPV’s can be found Used, that are Right Hand Bolt & Right Eject. And of course single shot. So you’ll need to decide if those two qualities work for you. It has the Target Accutrigger which is a plus… unless you are one who likes to customize & change things, which makes it a waste.
This platform is capable of the highest precision Savage offers in the 110-line of rifles. For an out of the box rig, ready to go & for someone who doesn’t want to change things, it’s a great rifle. Can be found for around $1400 new, which is decent for what they offer. Can find the older version USED for around $1000, which is a fantastic deal. (And the way I would go.) the only thing I don’t like is the single shot. I’m a magazine guy… always have been. And I like Aluminum Chassis. Oh, and I like building my own rifles with all the parts I want… So, these are a NO for me. But could be exactly what others are looking for.
I have one in .204. Great shooter. Pretty dang accurate. Plenty heavy so you see your impacts. One I will keep for a very long time.
Thanks Dave. I don`t have one and am just evaluating and was looking for input from current users as to any issues (reliability ), quirks that would be good to know, real world experience with accuracy and precision out beyond, say, 300 yards, etc. I`m not really a tinkerer when it comes to guns, so a good set up affording an opportunity for accuracy at the stated ranges out of the box would be important. Most interest is in .223, preferably 1:7 twist. I have experience with a 110 action and have been very pleased with my 110 Storm. Until potentially in the near future ( if I`m accepted into a local rod and gun club ), the only range to which I have access is 100 yards max. LOL, that`s been my excuse for not getting a more dedicated target gun! So far everything I`ve seen about the 12 LRPV has been very positive. Guess I need to go over to Sniper`s Hide where they hate all things Savage to get the flip side ( just kidding !! I pay little mind to what they say. ) ! If I don`t get into the club this is moot anyway.Originally Posted by Dave Hoback
Don’t let a club be the bearing for anything you do. I’m not part of any competition. Am just a member at a normal Gun Club, and while I could take part in their comps.. I don’t. I shoot because I enjoy it. But for me it’s the entire hobby. Besides shooting(which isn’t as much as in years past), I love building & working on firearms. I love reloading, working up loads. And I love just talking about guns with others who enjoy the hobby as I do. But I purchase the rifles I want(rather, I build those I want…but, same general outcome.) Also, you could do the same thing with your 110 Storm.
But I’m sure you would be happy with the 12LRPV.
Well, the problem is that ONLY the club has ranges over 100 yards within reasonable distance. I`m not interested in competition either, except internal competition in trying to get better. We shall see. Thanks much!
I got a great deal on the 12 LRPV action and built a 223 for 300 yard Benchrest matches. So far it shoots great. Most guys are shooting custom rifles but I like Savage because I am a bit of a shade tree gunsmith and like doing things myself. This one has the stock Target Accutrigger with a little work I did on it, shoots real good at about 5oz pull weight.
I have a savage model 12 and it’s the Beas and most accurate rifle I have ever owned. Stock action and criterion barrel. Just last week I shot a grout 1.5 inch width and 1” elevation at 500 meters. 1500 rounds on the barrel, just checking if it still had enough accuracy left in it. I decided it would make it to the end of the benchrest season.
So 1500 rounds is enough to question precision? I hope I get considerably more than that out of my Model 12 in .223. Then again, I`m not competing, just trying to bang steel .
Don't worry about barrel life with the .223. My Axis barrel was still capable of 0.5MOA after 4500 rounds. It is in a box waiting to see if I will every use it again.
I would brag about the .308 but most of the bullets through it have been cast (getting close to 6000). :)
Range report: Started the journey out to 500 yards today by shooting some steel targets at 200 and 300. I didn`t measure groups or anything but the LRPV banged them with no problem. All I did was point it and then got out of the way! Frontier(Hornady) 68 grain OTM rounds. It was fun!
Good stuff.. Glad you’re enjoying your new rig.
ROFLMAO Now you are hooked :)
Congratulations. I have a Model 12 long range target rifle that I shoot Palma and long range prone. The rifle is great. Ergonomics great on laminate prone stock. I also like the target Accutrigger. The .308 has a 1:13 twist 30 in. barrel meant for 155 gr bullets, but the rifle shoots the heavier 175-178 gr bullets very well which I prefer. I also have a barrel chambered for 6mm SLR that also shoots great.
So enjoy your adventure with your new rifle.
Why did they go with the slow twist, and why does it shoot the heavy bullets so well?
Seems like that would go against most common theories on stabilizing heavy bullets.
Thanks.
It is kinda backwards, but, the longer barrels allow a bit more vel, which means longer/heavier bullets can be stabilized.
The slower twist (and longer barrel) is used with the 155's so a bit more vel could be eeeked out of them. Less energy to spin them up means more energy to push the bullet. The longer barrel is also good for a longer sight radius.
Rules: A Palma rifle consists of a single shot bolt action rifle weighing less than 6 kg (13.2lbs) in 7.62mm NATO caliber (.308 Winchester) firing a 155 grain palma bullet. US Palma rules allow any weight bullets, NRA Match and Service Rifles.
Adding to what Charlie b said, 155 gr bullets are required for those who shoot on the international team. There are three members of my club who are on the current US Palma team. Those of us who will never be on the international team can shoot the bullet we want, even at the nationals (Camp Perry, Camp Atterbury). My club sponsored a "Full Bore" match earlier this year where the 155 gr was required. Situations like this are the only time you see it mandatory. At the full bore match we also shot "two to a mound" rather than a single string. That was a challenge to stay in position a lot longer.
Thanks gents. The last time I shot a rifle at targets at these ranges was when I was working for Uncle Sam back in the 70`s. This is a lot more fun! My performance with an M-16 was "inconsistent " out around 300 yards/meters ( M-14 was another matter! ), so it was nice to get a little " payback" at that range, LOL. Looking forward to getting back out and going further.
Well.......LOL!! I`m glad I can take credit for initiating a thread that has allowed the experts to hold forth! I`ll just crawl back into my little neophyte hole with my .223 " trainer" !!
LOL trainer indeed. Probably one of my better 600yd guns when the wind wasn't blowing.
223 is among my very favorite cartridges my friend. Although I use it in the AR platform. I’ve hand built & owned a horde of AR15’s over the last 17 years, and all but 2 were chambered 223/5.56. While I’ve never had a Bolt Gun in 223 I know what it does in my high end AR15’s. And I also know that performance can only be furthered in a Bolt Gun. Trainer says you? HA, says I!
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