WTF Alliant?

[Ernest T]

I received the Alliant RL-16 powder I ordered when it was in stock for about 15 minutes at Brownells last week. This jug is half empty! It’s hard to store and hard to pour from this huge thing. Eight pounds of CFE Pistol for Comparison.

[Dave Hoback]

WASTE! That’s the American way, isn’t it? Why put money into the product, or pass on savings to the consumer, when it can be wasted on packaging…

[Stumpkiller]

They use the same container for all powders. Some are denser than others. Since it is sold by weight the volume varies. Cuts down on the cost of forming and inventorying multiple containers.

ps: it is made in Sweden. Not sure where the end use containers are filled.

[Ernest T]

They use the same container for all powders. Some are denser than others. Since it is sold by weight the volume varies. Cuts down on the cost of forming and inventorying multiple containers.

ps: it is made in Sweden. Not sure where the end use containers are filled.

This jug will hold 16 lbs of RL-16, its not just a little over size for coarser powder.

[Dave Hoback]

This jug will hold 16 lbs of RL-16, its not just a little over size for coarser powder.

I was gonna say! No way is that an 8lb powder bottle. I’ve never seen a 16lb. I only buy powder by the pound anyway.

[charlie b]

Never had a problem with all of it in a garage. Dry heat :) Even did that when we lived in Phx. Metal garage door faced west. 110F common.

I never stored much powder and primers before. Now I think I should look up local laws (more than 25lb). Used to be pretty open out here. With the labs and research bases there were some "home businesses" who were storing hundreds of pounds of explosives of all types. They cracked down on that, and black powder was included in the rules. I think gun powder and such is not regulated but i need to look it up.

[GrenGuy]

Save empty 1# and 8# powder containers and relable them for new powder. Make a big funnel out of an empty bleach bottle, and transfer powder to more manageable containers.

[charlie b]

^^this.

I kinda 'standardized' on Hodgdon powder bottles. The labels remove easily. When I empty a container I refill it from the jug using a funnel.

It is kinda interesting how much the density of powders is different. Sometimes the bottle is full and sometimes it looks half full, both with 1lb of powder.

[Stumpkiller]

I know you guys are careful and competent, but be careful with that practice. It was forbidden to reuse chemical containers or refill them where I worked. There was a local precedence.

At the same maternity ward I was born in, a nurse, three years later, made a bunch of baby formula using sugar from a relabeled container. Turns out the prior shift had refilled the container - from a larger container that had a partially missing label. It was salt. By the time they traced the problem six babies had died and several others had organ damage.

We all know the horrors of overcharges with Unique or Bullseye. If you do it, be VERY cautious. We need all the shooters we can keep.

[charlie b]

Yep. Cleaned, washed, then relabeled when filled.

I, probably like many here, have many chemicals in the shop. Careful to not mix. When I use one type of bore cleaner, I clean it out of the bore with alcohol before using my Cu remover (they are not compatible). Then I use alcohol again to clean that out. And yes, I checked with the mfgs as to what was recommended.

[Blue Avenger]

I know you guys are careful and competent, but be careful with that practice. It was forbidden to reuse chemical containers or refill them where I worked. There was a local precedence.

At the same maternity ward I was born in, a nurse, three years later, made a bunch of baby formula using sugar from a relabeled container. Turns out the prior shift had refilled the container - from a larger container that had a partially missing label. It was salt. By the time they traced the problem six babies had died and several others had organ damage.

We all know the horrors of overcharges with Unique or Bullseye. If you do it, be VERY cautious. We need all the shooters we can keep.

Got some donuts from a church benefit once where that happened.

[Ernest T]

^^this.

I kinda 'standardized' on Hodgdon powder bottles. The labels remove easily. When I empty a container I refill it from the jug using a funnel.

It is kinda interesting how much the density of powders is different. Sometimes the bottle is full and sometimes it looks half full, both with 1lb of powder.

I do that too, but I usually buy a 1 lb container of powder, then order 8 lb jugs if I like it, so I have a 1 lb container with the original label on it. Unfortunately, I didn't save the 1 lb. container of RL-16.

[charlie b]

I stuck with one brand/size just for shelf space. I like having one size jug. The big ones go in a cabinet in the garage.

[Ernest T]

I stuck with one brand/size just for shelf space. I like having one size jug. The big ones go in a cabinet in the garage.

I need a better storage option for powder I keep the big jugs in a steel cabinet in the house, its not a safe, but SAAMI specifies a wooden box or locker. I finally made a box for primers, its made of 1" thick pine and will hold about 30,000. It sits on the floor in the hall closet, separate from the powder and factory ammo.