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    Max COAL for 1st generation short action.

    Given that the 1st Gen short actions have a 4.5 screw spacing and were called intermediate actions I was wondering what the max cartridge length would function in the magazine. I have 2 pre-1966 long actions and one has a 7x57 barrel. It looks like I have about .5 inches of extra room when loading .284 139gr SSTs. You can probably guess where I am going. Could a 7X57 work in a 1st Gen short action. The extra room in the long action bugs me even though it feeds all rounds perfectly. If it would fit, a 1st Gen short with a 22 inch 7x57 sporter weight barrel could make a really light woods rifle using lighter weight bullets.

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    Just curious. To me the ideal 'light woods gun' is a single shot. Ruger #1 or 3 comes to mind. Or win 85.

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    Don’t know off hand, but if you have ‘em, why not just measure?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave Hoback View Post
    Don’t know off hand, but if you have ‘em, why not just measure?
    he has 2 long actions, thus the how long is a short action question.

    Not having one handy, I can not give you a measurement at the moment. The mags will be made to fit .308 / .243 "2.80" overall length cartriges. 7x57s are in the "3.07" range. Port can be opened a bit, but mag length is fixed.
    Going single shot, you would be mostly ejecting shorter empty cases.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blue Avenger View Post
    he has 2 long actions, thus the how long is a short action question.

    Not having one handy, I can not give you a measurement at the moment. The mags will be made to fit .308 / .243 "2.80" overall length cartriges. 7x57s are in the "3.07" range. Port can be opened a bit, but mag length is fixed.
    Going single shot, you would be mostly ejecting shorter empty cases.
    Read over that. Thank you for clarifying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by charlie b View Post
    Just curious. To me the ideal 'light woods gun' is a single shot. Ruger #1 or 3 comes to mind. Or win 85.
    I agree with the Ruger #1, They just want your first born child for them. I just like to tinker with Savages and see what you can do with them. 260 rem would be another option for a short action.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dillwt View Post
    I agree with the Ruger #1, They just want your first born child for them. I just like to tinker with Savages and see what you can do with them. 260 rem would be another option for a short action.

    Yes, 260 Rem works well. I still love mine. Although I should have gone 260AI immediately. Next barrel change plan, anyway.

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    Understand the desire for another.

    I get rid of anything I don't use monthly, except for the sentimental stuff. I am a recovering hoarder of guns. :) Still not easy to pass on something I see and really like.

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    Thoughts on 358 Winchester, an age appropriate caliber for a 1st gen short action.

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