Mark 2 TR First Day Out

[Full Chisel]

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First day out shooting the new Mark 2 TR. Swivel bipod and rear bag. Have Hawke 6-24x44 in Burris signature rings on an EGW 20 MOA rail. Stock torque 15F/15R.

So far my trusty old CCI SV lot M21AZ01 is coming in just under .5" at 50 yards shooting over flags. It did okay at 100yd, but I may have to pull out the Wolf ME stash. The Eley just plain sucked it, so I guess this rifle likes running lower around 1070 fps. It was 45* F, so it may be running more around 1060 fps, but didn't chrono.

All in all really pleased. Taking it and the G out to 200 yd tommorrow.

[Fasteddie01]

Hey there - Pretty good shooting for first time out. Wait'll you get 'used to it', those groups should tighten up even better. Cloverleaf at 50 and under 1.5 at 100 is really well done. With my B22 I'm getting some 50's around 0.3-0.4" but not shooting 100s yet. My best shots come using SKStd+ but SK Basic FlatNose did about as well. Fed Champion 40gSV RNL did under 1/2" occasionally too. I just bought an amazon adjustable Kydex cheek rest to get up to the scope so my hold is consistent. I had a butt-pad with a cheek riser and I had to squash it down to get the bolt out Now I just loosen a couple screws
I like the look of the stock, the grip on yours is more pronounced than the B. The comb is about as low as mine so unless you're using a 'chin hold' you might consider one of the plastic adjustable rests, only $30 or so. Some come with various colours and finishes. I'm putting some suede on mine, to match the suede I put on the Tapco cheek rest on my SKS .
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[Full Chisel]

Yeah it looks like that SKF is working for you. Not sure how many rounds you got down it, but my other Mark II just got better and better for the first brick down it. I like the B stock. I mentioned to someone out here that the lowered shouldering could be the schizzle for off-hand shooting. Would love to get my hands on one to try. Other than the mags, I really have no reason not to.

I was hoping the Eley would do it for me, but it wasn't meant to be. This is my 2nd Mark II and both like running at around 1050-1060 fps for 50 yd shooting. I have one lot of CCI SV that runs low and shoots good out of both. The other lot, which is almost gone, runs 15 fps faster and neither rifle likes it as much. I clocked it yesterday out at 200 and got 1051 fps on the good lot and 1065 fps on the other. I only got about 25 shots of each down, but so far I give a slight edge to the good lot. Surprisingly, at 200, I found that Aguila HV 40 CP shot pretty good. At least as good as the CCI. I'm gonna put some CCI in the cooler this week and head back out to 50 and 100 just to see if I can slow it down more and what results I might get. But, sub 0.5" at 50 out of the box with CCI has me smiling so far. BTW, I did JB bore paste the barrel pretty good before it saw it's first shots.

[Full Chisel]

Thought I would add. Now that I've seen how it does, I've got a Sightron S-TAC 30mm fixing to go on it. Just waiting on the Burris 30mm Sigs to get here Friday. I've got a 20 MOA rail, but with the scope height and 50 yd drop I'm only dialing about 9 MOA down from center to get zeroed. I'm gonna use the 10 moa inserts front and back to add another 20 moa. That will put me dialed down 29 moa - which still has room to spare - and give me something like 60 usable dial up if I need it. Been wanting to go to 300 yd but my other one just doesn't have the headroom in the optics. Saw a guy shooting his CZ 22LR at 300 a few weeks back - offhand mind you - and ringing a 16" plate. Jeez.

[mrnate8]

Hey Chisels,

Long time no chat.

While researching new ammo, I came across this older ammo test on the forum if it helps.

https://www.savageshooters.com/showt...-test-complete


If you don't mind my asking, which Eley did you test? I was eyeing their "target" rounds to start because they seem like a good value compared to "match" ammo. Gonna also test my CCI 36 grain mini mag CPHP-HV next time I visit the range, which I already had on hand to see how they perform versus the Thunderbolt.

Since we last talked, I sanded and polished my bolt and the action is much smoother. Extraction was also weakening (I probably bent it too much troubleshooting safety), so I squeezed back the c-clamp past the .485 standard width and it spins out beautifully.

300 is nuts. Is there enough elevation with at 20 MOA rail plus 10 with the inserts? I'm math stupid.

[Full Chisel]

Hey Nate. Glad you got everything squared away. I had ejection issues too with both, but the c-clip fix and sharpening up the extractor tip fixed most of it. I really need to call Savage and see if they'll send me a extra clip. And I may still need to polish up the chamber some. Funny that CCI is the only ammo giving me any issues.

BTW, I have the same issue you had with the safety engaging, maybe not quite as bad, so at least I know where to look now next time I have it apart. I may take a stone and carefully hit the top edge of that screw.

On the Eley, it was Target and Club. Target runs 1087 fps in my rifles and Club runs 1081 fps. My rifles tend to get accurate at 50 yd when running down around 1060 fps. I'm sure it's a combination of harmonics, [cough] optimum barrel time [cough], and whatever other ghosts are in the machine. I have some Wolf ME which has a ridiculously narrow velocity deviation, and it also runs slower than advertised, so it shoots lights out in the G. But I'm hoarding the last bit I have and haven't run it in the TR. I've gotten some consistent sub .4's with it out of the sporter G at 50, and it shoots well at 100, probably because the velocity is so consistent. As soon as I'm sure this rifle is all buttoned up, I'm gonna run some down it.

As far as the scope, sorry about the quick math, so here's a better explanation. I have 1.7" bore below scope, plus 4.2" ballistics drop at 50 yd, which will cause bullet to impact 11.3 moa low at 50 yd with an optically centered scope. Add in bullet rise from the EGW 20 moa rail cant, and I can actually expect to see the bullet hit 8.7 moa high, again with scope optically centered. So theoretically I dial down 8.7 moa to get zero - in actuality, I had to dial down 9 moa (so this barrel has virtually zero droop or rise). I have a new scope with a measured 72 moa adjustment range. I deem 60 moa to be usable - with 30 below center, 30 above. I've already know I'll have to dial down 9 moa, so technically I should have another 21 moa left to dial down and still be in usable range. So, I set the rear inserts with +10, and the front inserts with -10 for a total of another 20 moa which makes my bullet now hit 20 moa high. Then I dial down that 20 moa and end up at 29 moa down below center on the scope to regain zero at 50. Now for shooting past 50, I can now dial up that 29 from below optical center, plus the 30 I have above center for 59 moa total dial up range. According to my ballistics calc, I only need to dial up 51 moa to get from 50 to 300, so I should be good. Hope that makes sense. And all this assumes my windage is somewhat optically centered, which on this rifle, it's only off by 3 moa. I could rotate those inserts to cancel out that 3 moa, but it's really not worth the hassle, so I'll just dial it out. Real problem is finding some ammo that will meet the challenge. I believe the gent I watched had Midas or Center-X. Anyway, it will be fun to try whatever the outcome. 200 has already been done with CCI and some Aguila HV grouping inside 6", so I'm hopeful.

[jkv45]

Hey Chisels,

Long time no chat.

While researching new ammo, I came across this older ammo test on the forum if it helps.

https://www.savageshooters.com/showt...-test-complete


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Interesting test - thanks.

Looks like it's all at 50 yards.

Anyone find any significant tests out to 100 yards or more with the Mark II?