Need Help with Savage First Gen Short Receiver Scope Rail!!!

[seagiant]

Hi,
I have run numerous searches and can find no real info on a scope rail for this 22-250 rifle.

It is a 110 model with a flat back and round front, but is the First Generation Short length.

Determined this by Ejection Port Length and Bolt Spacing.

Sooo....Does anyone know of a scope rail that is available for this rifle???

The regular 110 with the round front and flat back, of course will not work.

[Wildcat]

I have a pre-2003 flat back long action with a one piece picatinny base from Murphy Precision. Not inexpensive but works wonderfully. They also do custom base work.
https://www.murphyprecision.com/Page/Custom_Services
Might be worth giving them a call or sending an email if you can't find something off the shelf.

[seagiant]

Hi,
Thanks, a little "rich" for my blood, but...

[Robinhood]

A two piece scope mount is not an option?

[seagiant]

Hi,
I have a Weaver 2 piece already, but it does not give much room for adjustment for the rings.

I have a Weaver Scope with Burris rings and it will not work.

VERY restricting on adjustability!

[Robinhood]

You may have had the misfortune of stumbling on to one of the reasons those actions are not very popular. Do you have a stock yet?

[olddav]

Take a look at a Weaver 413 (48425) scope base. It is listed as a one piece base for a pre 2003 Savage 110 action (flatback ?)

[olddav]

Never mind!

[seagiant]

You may have had the misfortune of stumbling on to one of the reasons those actions are not very popular. Do you have a stock yet?

Hi,
Thanks everyone, I have a small shop so I might just buy a 12" Weaver Scope Base Blank and make my own.

The Receiver has a round front and a flat back, so the base will have to be machined on the front and of course the holes drilled.

I see no other way to get an affordable one piece base.

Yes I have the original Black Walnut Stock.

[Nor Cal Mikie]

Always an issue with all the holes in the action (110V J series) not being used when it comes to scope mounts. (odd ball length) Not sure how many I bought and returned trying to get ALL the holes to match a scope mount. No luck. And lots of times, you couldn't get enough windage adjustment to get the scope on target.
Finally, picked up a new rear windage adjustable one piece mount for the rear and a one piece mount for the front that covered ALL the action holes.
Shipped them off, had them cut in half, mounted the front and back pieces together and re welded together. And, the mount doesn't cover any of the action port opening. Can't tell it from a factory one piece base and it's a "custom fit".
20 or 30 years ago, there were mounts all over the place for the J short actions. Just can't go back in time.

[seagiant]

Hi,
Thanks, I actually have a friend that is a all around Gunsmith and he is going to see if we can use a regular 110 (flat back, round front) and maybe get away with drilling some new holes where needed.

Less labor than getting a blank anyway...

Will post what I come up with, to bad you can't post pics here???

What is up with that???

[seagiant]

Hi,
Well, I feel sort of FOOLISH admitting this but I got the scope mounted.

I was looking at it again and noticed the rail cut outs on the bases was more towards one end than the other, so...

Flipped them around and it JUST gave me enough room to mount the scope, but it is against the wall, so to speak with no room for adjustment!

Talked to my friend and he said I could buy 2 sets of Weaver double offset rings and use the offset out of each package to move the scope back which would give me a better (closer) eye relief!

I could then sale the "regular" rings, as a "normal" ring set, to off set the cost.

An idea anyway, but I'm going to try and shoot it as it is and see what I think.

Thanks again for the help everyone!!!

[NF1E]

I decided to to Murphy precision on a couple of mine. Could not be happier.

[Smokey262]

If these guys don't have it in the online listings I bet they would make it for you for a decent price. Have worked with them before and had no issues.

https://www.egwguns.com/catalogsearc...vage+flat+back

[seagiant]

If these guys don't have it in the online listings I bet they would make it for you for a decent price. Have worked with them before and had no issues.

https://www.egwguns.com/catalogsearc...vage+flat+back

Hi,
Thanks, yes, good people there!

[seagiant]

I decided to to Murphy precision on a couple of mine. Could not be happier.

Hi,
Thank you!

[Dave Hoback]

Baaa... Can’t find anything offered for the very first “short”, (but not really) Actions.. Frustrating.


But this one should work.
https://www.amazon.com/Savage-Medium.../dp/B01G97XK7C

Here it is right from EGW..
https://www.egwguns.com/savage-flat-...icatinny-0-moa

[seagiant]

Baaa... Can’t find anything offered for the very first “short”, (but not really) Actions.. Frustrating.


But this one should work.
https://www.amazon.com/Savage-Medium.../dp/B01G97XK7C

Here it is right from EGW..
https://www.egwguns.com/savage-flat-...icatinny-0-moa

Hi,
Thank you very much, that is it.

The first Gen "Short" was actually longer than the later Savage "Short", and was so deemed, a Medium, I guess.

Admittedly, I now know more about Savage Production History, than I was looking to learn!

Thanks, again!!!

[Dave Hoback]

Yeah.... that usually happens here, LOL. But it’s all our pleasure to try to help answer questions.