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    Anybody thought of 3-D printing up some higher-capacity magazines for short-action Axis rifles?

    I wonder if you could print up a 10-round magazine for the Savage Axis?

    Anybody around here make such an attempt?

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    Quote Originally Posted by FOGeologist View Post
    I wonder if you could print up a 10-round magazine for the Savage Axis?

    Anybody around here make such an attempt?
    Great idea. The more innovation that comes from this platform, the better. When I have spoken with certain manufacturers, the reply is that there just isn't enough interest.

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    Design it up and send it off to be printed and see how it works. Plenty of places for that. Even some public libraries have them.

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    I could attempt to model it, though I don't have a printer myself. I've gotten fairly good at modeling small parts - the spring will really be the issue though it could likely be made to function with an AR mag spring.

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    I agree, you could source the spring from any of the regular mfgs, including GI surplus. The good part is, you just have to make a 'box' to fit the metal portion of the existing magazine. No messing with feed lips and followers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by charlie b View Post
    I agree, you could source the spring from any of the regular mfgs, including GI surplus. The good part is, you just have to make a 'box' to fit the metal portion of the existing magazine. No messing with feed lips and followers.
    Thats a great point. Even if you had to buy the Savage model 10, 10round mag spring.

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    Did a bit of tinkering with it tonight. I definitely need to work some more on the latch but didn't take too long to get a basic pattern started:


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    The tabs that hold the bottom to the original metal, should be ramped for durability. Nice work!

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    Anybody thought of 3-D printing up some higher-capacity magazines for short-action Axis rifles?

    The plastic catch on the mag is problematic I haven’t found a plastic that will remain elastic and hold up. Polymax PLA works best but it won’t last unless it’s annealed which due to non uniform shrinkage causes other issues. If someone has a printer that can print nylon that may work, think LEGO plastic.

    I have fusion 3d but usually design in 3d builder. It’s free with windows 10, accurate and easy to use. Fusion is better for threads though.


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    That was why I suggested the new model latch. Yeah, it requires a pin and spring, but, I think it would work better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ninner View Post
    The plastic catch on the mag is problematic I haven’t found a plastic that will remain elastic and hold up. Polymax PLA works best but it won’t last unless it’s annealed which due to non uniform shrinkage causes other issues. If someone has a printer that can print nylon that may work, think LEGO plastic.
    If you're talking about an SLA/DLP style printer like an Anycubic Photon or Mono, I've been recommended Siraya Tenacious resin. Apparently it works particularly well when you mix it 20/80 into your regular 'brittle' resins. I just got a bottle of it here for something completely unrelated to firearms, and will be experimenting to see how it responds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RBT321 View Post
    If you're talking about an SLA/DLP style printer like an Anycubic Photon or Mono, I've been recommended Siraya Tenacious resin. Apparently it works particularly well when you mix it 20/80 into your regular 'brittle' resins. I just got a bottle of it here for something completely unrelated to firearms, and will be experimenting to see how it responds.

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    I’ve only done FDM printing so far but after looking at the printer you referenced I may have to try it out. Do you have a Anycubic? Do you like it?


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    Quote Originally Posted by ninner View Post
    I’ve only done FDM printing so far but after looking at the printer you referenced I may have to try it out. Do you have a Anycubic? Do you like it?
    I love the AnyCubic Photon! It's amazingly accurate and the prints are incredibly clean. Here is a picture of a tiny N gauge model railway bogie that I made. It will demo the detail you can get out of these things:



    Though be warned that there is a significant learning curve involved in getting good quality prints every time from these SLA/DLP systems and the standard resins all produce quite brittle parts that probably won't stand up to any rough treatment.

    That's where I hear the Siraya Tenacious resin can make a huge difference, but I am only just beginning to experiment with it myself.

    Even since I bought mine just back in March there are newer models coming out that feature much faster prints and larger volumes: Check out the AnyCubic Mono, the Phrozen Sonic 4K Mini and the Elgoo Saturn. And I think Epax and Peopoly have new ones out this year too. If you choose the Phrozen printer let me know, I'll send you a link as I earn a bottle of resin for every new customer I can introduce! :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by RBT321 View Post
    I love the AnyCubic Photon! It's amazingly accurate and the prints are incredibly clean. Here is a picture of a tiny N gauge model railway bogie that I made. It will demo the detail you can get out of these things:



    Though be warned that there is a significant learning curve involved in getting good quality prints every time from these SLA/DLP systems and the standard resins all produce quite brittle parts that probably won't stand up to any rough treatment.

    That's where I hear the Siraya Tenacious resin can make a huge difference, but I am only just beginning to experiment with it myself.

    Even since I bought mine just back in March there are newer models coming out that feature much faster prints and larger volumes: Check out the AnyCubic Mono, the Phrozen Sonic 4K Mini and the Elgoo Saturn. And I think Epax and Peopoly have new ones out this year too. If you choose the Phrozen printer let me know, I'll send you a link as I earn a bottle of resin for every new customer I can introduce! :)

    Ross.
    That looks like my new Christmas present.


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    Ok I haven’t seen one, I’ll have to take a look.


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    I had a guy on eBay wanting a custom safety bolt block for the range his will be orange but here is the prototype made out of glow in the dark PLA


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    So is anyone making this happen, or did it not work out?

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    If anyone will post pics of the new style mag I’ll try.


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    Why not make a mag port/bottom metal that accepts high cap mags that are already in production.
    The Dunning-Kruger effect is alive and well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robinhood View Post
    Why not make a mag port/bottom metal that accepts high cap mags that are already in production.
    ? Never considered it. Most of the stocks I have aren’t inleted for bottom metal and I’ve switched to chassis where I wanted aics.


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    Following up on this from a long time back -

    I bought an Ender 3 V2 and promptly went down the rabbit hole of making replacement parts, munitions, and model fuel tanks for my radio control planes.

    BTW, don't go down into the pit of RC. There is little chance you can climb out.

    I sent my bolt off to be "tuned" with a bushing and re-sprung, so I didn't have to deal with Savage's misdesigned spring arrangement. Now I have to consider designing my magazine, saving $400 - $500 for a half-decent scope and rings (the stock rail seems to be just fine, in fact, I suspect most stock rails are sufficient for all but "battle" purposes), and a careful load workup is in order - although from my unpublished "round 2 range report," I can tell you that my stock handload (55 grain Montana Gold over X-Terminator) is a sub MOA round in this rifle.

    Then, I will contemplate creating a 10 round capacity magazine in Fusion 360 for this rifle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FOGeologist View Post
    Following up on this from a long time back -

    I bought an Ender 3 V2 and promptly went down the rabbit hole of making replacement parts, munitions, and model fuel tanks for my radio control planes.

    BTW, don't go down into the pit of RC. There is little chance you can climb out.

    I sent my bolt off to be "tuned" with a bushing and re-sprung, so I didn't have to deal with Savage's misdesigned spring arrangement. Now I have to consider designing my magazine, saving $400 - $500 for a half-decent scope and rings (the stock rail seems to be just fine, in fact, I suspect most stock rails are sufficient for all but "battle" purposes), and a careful load workup is in order - although from my unpublished "round 2 range report," I can tell you that my stock handload (55 grain Montana Gold over X-Terminator) is a sub MOA round in this rifle.

    Then, I will contemplate creating a 10 round capacity magazine in Fusion 360 for this rifle.
    RC airplanes. Yep, have had a few, still do :) I stick with mostly electric scale in smaller sizes (<60"). Was so deep in the hole started up my own business cutting kits (Manzano Laser Works). Sold it off a few years ago but still build and fly every now and then.

    Was also tempted to get a 3D printer but have not felt the need to get one yet. Will probably get another small metal lathe before a 3D printer.

    You are right that most rails will suffice for the .22's. Scopes are another story. Better to spend more on them. But, I was pleasantly surprised at my Vortex Diamondback (24x). Better optics than I expected and reticle movement is very repeatable.

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