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    Mag issues on axis II 350 legend

    First off, thanks for the add!!!

    I took my axis II out to the range for the first time today. I was impressed with the out of the box accuracy. However after each shot the mag seemed to drop just enough to allow the bolt to slide over the cartridge and not load another round. I would reach under and pull up on the mag and and reseat it and the bolt would load another shell. Happened every shot. Got home and checked the mag release button/lever and lubed it lightly.

    Has anyone else had this problem?

    If so, what was your fix?

    TIA

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    Quote Originally Posted by Talan View Post
    First off, thanks for the add!!!

    I took my axis II out to the range for the first time today. I was impressed with the out of the box accuracy. However after each shot the mag seemed to drop just enough to allow the bolt to slide over the cartridge and not load another round. I would reach under and pull up on the mag and and reseat it and the bolt would load another shell. Happened every shot. Got home and checked the mag release button/lever and lubed it lightly.

    Has anyone else had this problem?

    If so, what was your fix?

    TIA

    Talan
    I had that issue on a savage 308, turned out the action screws were a tad loose. Torqued to spec and was fine after that.

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    Ted I just took the rifle out to my shop and checked the torque and retorted the action screws to 35 in. Pounds. I’ll see if that helps. Would reinforcing the stock help? I read an article where the author used to 3/16 rods and epoxied them in place? I’d hate to restock a brand new rifle but I will if needed. It shoots well for a stock sub $400.00 rifle but if your bolt slides over the round in the mag it’s useless for a second shot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Talan View Post
    Ted I just took the rifle out to my shop and checked the torque and retorted the action screws to 35 in. Pounds. I’ll see if that helps. Would reinforcing the stock help? I read an article where the author used to 3/16 rods and epoxied them in place? I’d hate to restock a brand new rifle but I will if needed. It shoots well for a stock sub $400.00 rifle but if your bolt slides over the round in the mag it’s useless for a second shot.
    Bedding the stock "could" help if you can find that some flexing issue was the problem. I would start with the simple things that cost no money to figure out like proper torque ( by the way, how far off were they from proper torque range?) The magazine etc. Did you say that you had to reseat the magazine and then it would strip the next round just fine? If so I'd call savage and tell them, they may send you a new mag to try.

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    Yes if I just reached under the rifle and pulled up slightly the mag would reseat and bolt would pick up the shell. I’m not against stiffening the stock but in my opinion I shouldn’t have to in a brand new rifle regardless of cost. The torque was only off between 30 & 35 pounds. So approximately 3-4 pounds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Talan View Post
    Yes if I just reached under the rifle and pulled up slightly the mag would reseat and bolt would pick up the shell. I’m not against stiffening the stock but in my opinion I shouldn’t have to in a brand new rifle regardless of cost. The torque was only off between 30 & 35 pounds. So approximately 3-4 pounds.
    I think the 1st thing I would do is try again, I this because several savages ive owned have felt like you got the mag all the way seated but in reality it wasn't. This has happened on a couple brand ive had, not just savage and it only would happen on a full magazine. Once I realized that is what was happening I pressed harder with the palm of my hand and heard a 2nd pop as it fully seated.. if.youve by chance already eliminated that as a possibility I would contact tech and maybe they will swap out the mag for you to eliminate that as a possibility then next being that its new, as much as it sucks to temporarily part with it I would go through the RMA process with savage. They have always been happy to help and reasonabley quick, that may be different during this covid 19 thing though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Talan View Post
    First off, thanks for the add!!!

    I took my axis II out to the range for the first time today. I was impressed with the out of the box accuracy. However after each shot the mag seemed to drop just enough to allow the bolt to slide over the cartridge and not load another round. I would reach under and pull up on the mag and and reseat it and the bolt would load another shell. Happened every shot. Got home and checked the mag release button/lever and lubed it lightly.

    Has anyone else had this problem?

    If so, what was your fix?

    TIA

    Talan
    My two buddies have new axis 2 350s they recently bought. Neither gun will Cycle shells. 1st one goes into chamber, rack bolt, shell ejects next one nose dives into magazine when u close bolt. Bolt rides over top of shell.Savage sent them each replacement mags to fix problem. No luck, same issue. Local gun store said a lot of guys having 350 jam issues. My one buddy finally bent the side tabs out on his mag to make his bullet sit higher in mag. Works great now! Also, these guns come with a 223? magazine which is a smaller bullet. Those 350 bullets sit super low in that mag. Anyway, after an identical mag replacement from savage & then one from a precision 350 savage, & both still having jam issues...I found out just last night after calling savage, they now have a caliber specific 350 magazine designed to fix the issue. It is item # 114456 which you’ll have to ask em for. I hope this helps someone who reads this. All recent news!

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    You have to have HIGH spring pressure with this round. Or it will nose dive as you seen. It is one of the ways that c-products uses to get this to function in an AR15 platform. C-Products make all the AR mags from the different maker of the ar's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tomme boy View Post
    You have to have HIGH spring pressure with this round. Or it will nose dive as you seen. It is one of the ways that c-products uses to get this to function in an AR15 platform. C-Products make all the AR mags from the different maker of the ar's.
    Here’s an update. New magazine arrived which is 350 specific. Still jams! Savage gets their mags from Magpul. You’d think a new gun wouldn’t have any issues but the mags my buddy adjusted work fine. My buddy’s guns not mine.

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    All,

    I'm working on this very issue with my own solution. The small tab doesn't have enough there to hold the mag in place. I tried to tweak it a bit, but being the steel it is, it snapped instantly. The mag will literally come out if you press from inside the action down. I took off the stock and inserted the mag and marked the depth with a scribe. I then added jb weld to the mag and shaped a proper tab onto the back. I have to fine tune it a bit, but in testing, has been rock solid with no issues. New to this forum and thought I'd share while figuring out how to post things properly.

    https://ibb.co/SKDpzt0

    https://ibb.co/TLjV9NP

    https://ibb.co/grrWsM0

    https://ibb.co/mXy7QVX
    Last edited by Mr.G; 12-19-2020 at 12:16 PM. Reason: adding pics.

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    It's the rifle recoil that causes the mag to slip. I have the same problem with my Axix I. I can load the mag and cycle rounds all day, with no problem. But when I take it to the range and fire the rifle is when it occurs. I'm not making any modifications. If this happens on so many rifles it's not a minor defect. Everyone keep calling Savage and complaining, they will come up with a solution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.G View Post
    All,

    I'm working on this very issue with my own solution. The small tab doesn't have enough there to hold the mag in place. I tried to tweak it a bit, but being the steel it is, it snapped instantly. The mag will literally come out if you press from inside the action down. I took off the stock and inserted the mag and marked the depth with a scribe. I then added jb weld to the mag and shaped a proper tab onto the back. I have to fine tune it a bit, but in testing, has been rock solid with no issues. New to this forum and thought I'd share while figuring out how to post things properly.

    https://ibb.co/SKDpzt0

    https://ibb.co/TLjV9NP

    https://ibb.co/grrWsM0

    https://ibb.co/mXy7QVX
    I had this same problem today and this post gave me a resolution to it. I did the same thing as Mr.G but I used “solder-it” silver solder to attach a piece of metal to the tab. Seems to be a rock solid hold so far.
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