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    I have been doing some research on the Savage 110 high country and I saw another forum about a guy having a terrible time with poor quality machining. Has anyone else noticed that Savage doesn't do a good job of machining/maintaining tolerances on their rifles? This isn't exactly a cheap rifle at over $1100 for that lack of quality.

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    if that guy is the one that is on his 3rd rifle because he kept sending them back... well i just don't believe him.

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    Every Savage I've ever owned go out shoot anybody can shoot it. You find a ride ammo you got sub Moa at any distance

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    I've seen many savage barrels that have tool/chatter marks but still hold 1moa or better and they just get better as you shoot them out

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    Savages are not immune to issues. Not a problem for me though because every one I see goes through a rebuild with only a few exceptions.
    The Dunning-Kruger effect is alive and well.

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    I don't know what some people think is bad machine work.

    I have a not inexpensive 12BVSS. I have not found any rough spots on it yet. It is matte stainless so minor issues don't really show up. The bolt can still be jammed when trying to rush a reload. Some of the edges are not stoned smooth (I would not expect a lot of hand work on a rifle at this price range). Machining is consistent and as accurate as I need.

    The bore was the only rough spot (.308). Took quite a bit of work to get it to shoot anywhere near 1/2MOA but 1MOA was fairly easy to get to.

    If I had it to do over again I would have done an exhaustive break in. Since I did not I ended up using some Iosso paste to smooth out the rough spots a bit. It is still a copper mine so I clean it every time I shoot it. It also does not like to be hot. Now days I shoot cast in it. Still just a bit less than MOA with cast bullets.

    The real problem with most production rifles (even at these prices) is you may or may not get a great barrel, or a bad barrel. Depending on the model, Savage may replace one that does not shoot well.

    The good thing is most Savages will shoot better than MOA with some doing less than 1/2MOA. Keep in mind that in this range of accuracy the shooter can be a big part of the problem/solution.

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    12BVSS is cheap huh? Stainless action, heavy barrel and an expensive laminate stock. What did you give for that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Robinhood View Post
    12BVSS is cheap huh? Stainless action, heavy barrel and an expensive laminate stock. What did you give for that?
    My old 12 FLVSS was pretty cheap,I paid $350 for it. Yes,It was used,but barely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by charlie b View Post
    I don't know what some people think is bad machine work.

    I have a not inexpensive 12BVSS. I have not found any rough spots on it yet. It is matte stainless so minor issues don't really show up. The bolt can still be jammed when trying to rush a reload. Some of the edges are not stoned smooth (I would not expect a lot of hand work on a rifle at this price range). Machining is consistent and as accurate as I need.

    The bore was the only rough spot (.308). Took quite a bit of work to get it to shoot anywhere near 1/2MOA but 1MOA was fairly easy to get to.

    If I had it to do over again I would have done an exhaustive break in. Since I did not I ended up using some Iosso paste to smooth out the rough spots a bit. It is still a copper mine so I clean it every time I shoot it. It also does not like to be hot. Now days I shoot cast in it. Still just a bit less than MOA with cast bullets.

    The real problem with most production rifles (even at these prices) is you may or may not get a great barrel, or a bad barrel. Depending on the model, Savage may replace one that does not shoot well.

    The good thing is most Savages will shoot better than MOA with some doing less than 1/2MOA. Keep in mind that in this range of accuracy the shooter can be a big part of the problem/solution.
    What specifically would you do for break-in?

    Thanks.

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    Probably something like this, from Savage FAQ

    https://service.savagearms.com/hc/en...-in-procedure-

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robinhood View Post
    Savages are not immune to issues. Not a problem for me though because every one I see goes through a rebuild with only a few exceptions.
    I think alot of people expect shilen select or criterion bore finish and thats just not realistic on a mass produced firearm

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    I said 'not inexpensive'. :) But, not the most expensive. New it was under $1000 by a little bit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by charlie b View Post
    I said 'not inexpensive'. :) But, not the most expensive. New it was under $1000 by a little bit.
    Thats what I was thinking. I paid just a little under that. I wish I had never split that rifle up
    The Dunning-Kruger effect is alive and well.

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    I own 2 savages. Recently picked up a 10T-SR in 6.5 creedmoor. Right out of box the rifle has a bad extractor. The rifle will not load from mag. Bolt rides over shell and will not strip one to chamber. But shoots 1/4 MOA at 100. I can fix the problems just frustrating. My other two are 100% and great shooters

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    Savage should do what ( i think it was bergera ) did, pay Ed shilen to come in and examine barrel quality control and production.. i think it was bergera..or maybe thompson??

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