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    Axis will no longer cock the FP when closing the Bolt


    Cleaned my Axis after a range trip yesterday. Have new springs on the FP. Had two failures to fire yesterday with CCI 200 primers. Tried twice and no go for each round. The dents did look pretty deep so I though maybe bad primers. Broke the bolt down today just to be sure nothing was wrong with the springs or FP. Measured the firing pin protrusion and it's at .051". Reassembled the bolt and slid it back into the action, closed the bolt and that's when I noticed the FP slide forward as the bolt closed. I triple checked everything and can't see why the FP won't stay cocked. Removing the action from the stock I noticed the sear will no longer slip into the trigger groove. Sear and trigger just sit there when I close the bolt. I can't induce the sear to stay in the trigger notch. The sear and trigger looks ok to me so I'm really stumped at this point?
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    Sear return spring missing?
    "As long as there's lead in the air....there's still hope.."

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    No. all springs are there.
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    Looked at it again this morning, Disassembled it cleaned and lubed everything and I can't find anything obviously wrong. I checked the sear closely and don't see anything obviously amiss. Would replacing the factory trigger with a Rifle Basix 1 help any? I really don't want to have to spend $65 just to sent this POS back to Savage. With all the problems I've had with this Axis, it is that last I will EVER buy.
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    Anyone have an Axis sear and trigger they would sell?
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    "Trigger" pull set TOO LITE ?? So it's fired when the bolt is closing? Just thinking out loud.

    My XP 100 would do that till I figured out what the problem was. Breathe on the trigger and it would go BOOM!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nor Cal Mikie View Post
    "Trigger" pull set TOO LITE ?? So it's fired when the bolt is closing? Just thinking out loud.

    My XP 100 would do that till I figured out what the problem was. Breathe on the trigger and it would go BOOM!!!
    Only thing I've done is installed the MCarbo trigger spring kit but that was months ago and the rifle functioned fine up until now. Working the bolt I notice the sear just sits all the way forward towards the muzzle and doesn't move forward and back into the trigger groove like it should. The spring on the side of the housing attached to the sear pushes it forward and that's where it stays.
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    Trigger is breaking at about 4.5 lbs so shouldn't be too light.
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    If the sear is not moving towards the trigger, that means nothing is pushing it. The cocking piece pin should be right against it...........Did you recently tear the bolt apart?
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    Quote Originally Posted by sharpshooter View Post
    If the sear is not moving towards the trigger, that means nothing is pushing it. The cocking piece pin should be right against it...........Did you recently tear the bolt apart?
    Yes, after have two more light primer strikes during my last outing, after installing new springs. Lifting the bolt handle cocks the FP but as soon as I close the bolt the FP moves forward.

    I've had the bolt broken down at least a half dozen times w/o problems. Simple system, how exactly could I screw it up?
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    I think I have it figured out......
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    Quote Originally Posted by GaCop View Post
    I think I have it figured out......
    ???

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    I figured if I was suttle about it, you'd figure it out.....the bolt was assembled incorrectly, leaving the cocking piece on the opposite side.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sharpshooter View Post
    i figured if i was suttle about it, you'd figure it out.....the bolt was assembled incorrectly, leaving the cocking piece on the opposite side.
    exactly...….. Boy, do I feel stupid!
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    Definitely not stupid. That is simply a lesson learned and we now have the benefit of your experience.

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    I was raised by my step-dad around firearms. He was an old time farm boy when he grew up. I have had my own firearms for many, many years myself. I have taken a gunsmith course for the express purpose of working on/repairing my own guns. Ans STILL I have inevitably made a mistake in re-assembly from time to time, even on guns I had previously disassembled and re-assemble successfully. Not stupidity, sometimes with me it's complacency, I get a little too familiar with the process. Been there done that!

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