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    Is it time we re-evaluate our business dealings with WalMart???



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    And Hollywood, and J.P.Morgan Chase, Paypal, etc...etc....
    The Dunning-Kruger effect is alive and well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robinhood View Post
    And Hollywood, and J.P.Morgan Chase, Paypal, etc...etc....
    check, check, and check.

    Walmart will be hard though in our rural location

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    Screw Walmart. Haven’t been there in over 10 years. And honestly the last time I was there was for handgun ammo. lol

    Walmart sucks. People who shop there deserve that garbage.

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    I already avoid Walmart like the plague...so their policies mean nothing to me.

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    I believe have been to a Walmart once. So I will continue my not shopping there but more aggressively.

    Dick's as well - I boycotted them starting when they stopped selling pistols. Haven't been able to get black powder or traditional archery gear there for decades, anyway. They are mostly golf and clothing. This is a shame because when I was a kid I shopped at Dick Stacks original store that was kitty-corner to my jr. high school. Spent many hours in that store and most of my allowance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by celltech View Post
    I already avoid Walmart like the plague...so their policies mean nothing to me.
    Same here, only as a desperate last resort.

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    Here's my $0.02 on this topic: If Walmart wants to stop selling certain things, so be it and there is an upside. This actually is a boon for the local sporting goods stores, gun stores, and ranges who exist on thin profit margins already. When a bulk buyer comes in, the local stores always suffer. I love the local gun store near me, and there are Big Chain stores all over he cannot compete with for regular ammo prices, except that he offers things they don't, plus knows a whole lot more than the Big Chain college kids who work retail. The local store has been great for certain items, and awesome for conversation and advice. So I say - support your local stores and ranges!

    I am not J. P. Moneybags, so I have to buy smart with the limited spare money I have. Walmart (and Costco and Best Buy, etc) can be great for the kinds of things that are needed to keep your family budget manageable (laundry detergent, paper towels, toothpaste, deodorant, snacks), but it wouldn't be my first (or second or third) choice for gun-related items because they don't stock the right stuff anyway and if they did, it'd be some imported knock-off.

    If we (the people) only buy our gun-related goods from stores that support, respect, and encourage responsible gun ownership and educated hunters, then those stores will thrive and continue to support us.

    The bigger hypocrisy is that Walmart sells alcohol - a substance responsible for far, far more ruined lives and deaths than any handgun ammunition - and just as regulated. Is it about saving lives or about the latest "big gesture" to grab sympathy? I'm sure I am not alone on this forum when I tell you that I make informed and smart decisions with my guns and my alcohol, and never the two do I mix (I mean, who wants to drink Bulleit from a Glock frame? The Hoppes ruins the taste.) For the record, I am not a teetotaler. I enjoy alcohol, and I enjoy shooting sports.

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    Seems to me they were pretty popular around here when they almost gave away Savages. Lol
    They are the worlds largest retailer by a wide margin. Stopping gun and ammo sales wont amount to a hiccup for them.
    And who could argue that it will help the small retailers.
    Home Depot and Lowes have driven most traditional lumber yards out of business.
    But ask any legitimate home builder where they would rather buy lumber.
    There is but one advantage to the large box stores.
    Go in with a laundry list of 15 or 20 items, and you will probably leave the store with all of them.
    Same goes for Walmart.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris3.Drums View Post
    Here's my $0.02 on this topic: If Walmart wants to stop selling certain things, so be it and there is an upside. This actually is a boon for the local sporting goods stores, gun stores, and ranges who exist on thin profit margins already. When a bulk buyer comes in, the local stores always suffer.

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    The bigger hypocrisy is that Walmart sells alcohol - a substance responsible for far, far more ruined lives and deaths than any handgun ammunition - and just as regulated. Is it about saving lives or about the latest "big gesture" to grab sympathy?
    I agree with both points 100%. I’m happy for the local guy, and you better believe the lard and alcohol Mallwart peddles is far, far more dangerous to the public than guns or ammo.

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    ???? The question is? Who in their right mind would walk into a business with a gun strapped on their hip?
    Trying to impress somebody? Makes you feel more like a man than the next guy?
    A Cop carries open and is a target for any STUPID low life trying to make a NAME FOR HIMSELF.
    Ever hear of concealed carry? NO ONE knows you're packing and no one will try to grab your gun. Easy access in a pinch.
    You going to be frisked when you walk in the door?
    Funny how Wallyworld was the greatest place in the world when they were selling guns at a lower price than anybody else around. Now, they're the scum of the earth because they don't want COWBOYS packing in their stores.
    It's not a matter of "If you can" open carry or not. IMHO, if you open carry, you better have a BADGE next to that holster.
    So Wallyworld doesn't want you to open carry? Not a problem. Don't like the way Wallyworld runs their business? Don't shop there. End of problem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris3.Drums View Post
    Here's my $0.02 on this topic: If Walmart wants to stop selling certain things, so be it and there is an upside. This actually is a boon for the local sporting goods stores, gun stores, and ranges who exist on thin profit margins already. When a bulk buyer comes in, the local stores always suffer. I love the local gun store near me, and there are Big Chain stores all over he cannot compete with for regular ammo prices, except that he offers things they don't, plus knows a whole lot more than the Big Chain college kids who work retail. The local store has been great for certain items, and awesome for conversation and advice. So I say - support your local stores and ranges!
    Great point about local stores. My LGS has about every kind of ammo I would ever need but sometimes the price gives me pause. I need to get past that and appreciate the fact that they are there every day, willing to support gun owners. At the current rate of things, they may become my only option. I do make it a point to support the locally owned ACE hardware store in my neighborhood over big box stores.

    I loathe and try to avoid the leftist companies that are out in front leading the assault on gun owners and our 2A rights. Other companies are simply caught in the middle in a no win position. I work in manufacturing and know how tough business can be. I have some empathy for their situation.

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    My 2 cents worth....

    Everybody in this country - on both the left and the right, just need to snap out of it and quit taking everything that happens or is said so damn personally. Just because a company decides to do something doesn't mean the sky is falling.

    Don't like abortion? Don't have one.
    Don't like gay marriage? Don't marry someone of the same sex.
    Don't like guns? Don't buy one.
    Don't like Walmart? Don't shop there.

    This B.S. of everyone being under the impression that just because they believe or think something everyone else has to believe/think the same as they do has to come to an end. We live in a free society to do as we please for the most part. Our economy runs on the free market system in which businesses can choose to sell whatever products they want, and as customers we can choose to buy from whomever we want. Walmart isn't the only game in town, and nobody's holding a gun to anybody's head forcing them to shop there.

    Technology (the internet - more specifically social media and 24 hour news networks) is going to be the ruin of this nation if we don't collectively pull our heads out of our asses and quit being offended or upset by every damn little thing whether it's something that affects us directly or not. What happened to the good old days when people kept their opinions and political views to themselves, minded their own damn business and lived their lives by their own morals and values while letting everyone else do the same?

    Social media and the internet has given every Tom, Dick & Harry a place to voice their opinion even if they don't have a clue WTF they're talking about. That's the real problem we're dealing with in this day and age.
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    Quote Originally Posted by J.Baker View Post

    Technology (the internet - more specifically social media and 24 hour news networks) is going to be the ruin of this nation if we don't collectively pull our heads out of our asses and quit being offended or upset by every damn little thing whether it's something that affects us directly or not.

    Social media and the internet has given every Tom, Dick & Harry a place to voice their opinion even if they don't have a clue WTF they're talking about. That's the real problem we're dealing with in this day and age.
    Yep.

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    Quote Originally Posted by J.Baker View Post
    My 2 cents worth....

    Everybody in this country - on both the left and the right, just need to snap out of it and quit taking everything that happens or is said so damn personally. Just because a company decides to do something doesn't mean the sky is falling.
    You speak the truth there.

    This will drift the topic a bit, but it is powerfully lamentable that somehow we (American society) have sought first to view things for their potential offensiveness, and if it isn't offensive, to seek to be the first to find some twisted way to claim "OFFENSE!" I think the social media aspect cannot be ignored - it fuels this "look at me, look at me" mentality and has truly undercut our ability to wage honest and spirited debate while respecting that there actually can be (dare I say it?) Differences Of Opinion. The problem has been compounded because everyone is cowing, too worried about offending someone, and then the added trouble of everyone piling on the issues like lemmings running to the cliff, unaware of why they are running in that direction. Ever ask a lemming (in the social media world)? I have, and it's because they fear being viewed as offensive for not saying they were offended when in reality nobody cared about the issue. Really? Are we allowing others to force us to veer so far to one side or the other?

    I think this has fueled this bizarre push to the extremes. You can't be conservative unless you are "ultra" - a far-right hate extremist. You cant be liberal unless you are uber - a leftist/socialist communist nanny-state-ist. When did we lose sight of how to talk over the yard fences? My neighbors are good people, and I don't need to label them to appreciate them. They are different from me, and aren't we all?

    Thank you J. Baker for pointing this out. I respect your and everyone's points in this discussion. This is one reason I have come to really enjoy this site.

    P.S. I thought I'd get at least one chuckle for wisecracking about drinking Bulleit bourbon from a gun frame.
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    Between Chris and Jim, you both pretty much covered it. My wife of 55+ years says I get too excited about what goes on around us till she hears it from the talking heads, sees it for herself then, she agrees with me.
    Social media is a BIG problem. Lots of folks running their mouths. Put them FACE TO FACE and the bunch will have nothing to say because of the chance of getting their asses handed to them.
    First thing that comes to mind are the folks dressed in black in Portland, Oregon. Nothing but a bunch of cowards. The bad part is that the Cops are a block away watching the whole show and doing nothing about it because they don't want to cause anymore problems?
    The Man/Woman in charge of the City needs to be FIRED!!
    In a group, the cowards have lots of balls. One on one, they can and will be taken down. They have to go home sometime. A little patience following them will lead to their nest then BOOM, problem solved.
    And my guess is there's folks that are willing to do just that. Got something to say to me? Have the balls to say it to my face or, shut the **** up!!
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    Can we even remotely imagine the litigation cost Walmart is facing over the incident in Texas?
    One way or another, we are looking down the barrel of gun control.
    The largest law firm in the country is located here in Orlando, and you need to know where they stand politically.
    And they are but one of many.
    The word TERRORIST has been used recently about many of (us), from the leaders of a major U S city.
    How many more will soon follow? Will we be hearing it come from the lips of candidates in the coming elections ?
    I think Wallmart’s decision was for the most part a defensive one, and who can really blame them?
    But even more importantly, its also a crack that will be exploited.
    There might have been more about the recent sale of Savage than we see at first glance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yobuck View Post
    The largest law firm in the country is located here in Orlando, and you need to know where they stand politically.
    Are talking about Morgan & Morgan? Where the guy has so many chins that it sounds like he says Morgan 4-5 times as his neck settles.

    That POS is from here in KY. I cannot stand those people. Blood suckers.


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    Money Talks BS walks. It is money that has controlled the anti 2nd amendment narrative. It is money and economics that controls what our major retailers say and do. They fear an economic strike against them. money and profit is everything to them. If the patriots of these United States do not exercise economic terror on these financial powerhouses that call for gun control, they will continue to change our laws and the narrative. The constitution will be used to wipe our behinds.

    Fascism swept across Europe and industrialist and money changers controlled the governments in the 20th century. Wars broke out and the money changers and industrialist profited. Look at Europe today. They have no influence on their UN controlled governments. A un-elected leader of the EU calls the shots. That same Organization is being called on the usurp our nation. If you do not recognize that, you have missed out on the education that has been taking place in our capital, our intelligence community and national law enforcement organizations. The truth is startling.

    The opponents of your freedoms are not taking it lightly. They are not saying live and let live. They are not just hoping for change. They are active politically. They are active economically. They are in your schools and universities. They are in the main stream media. They are actively and with purpose moving to change the world to their vision and care not about the rule of our laws or our rights. Anything not worth fighting for has no value at all. In my humble opinion countering their actions with swift economic pressure and public outcries are our only defense.

    If our liberties mean nothing to you by all means, don't use your voice or economic power to influence your future.
    The Dunning-Kruger effect is alive and well.

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    Wow. Well said. I’ll need to go down a rabbit hole or two exploring.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robinhood View Post
    Money Talks BS walks. It is money that has controlled the anti 2nd amendment narrative. It is money and economics that controls what our major retailers say and do. They fear an economic strike against them. money and profit is everything to them. If the patriots of these United States do not exercise economic terror on these financial powerhouses that call for gun control, they will continue to change our laws and the narrative. The constitution will be used to wipe our behinds.

    Fascism swept across Europe and industrialist and money changers controlled the governments in the 20th century. Wars broke out and the money changers and industrialist profited. Look at Europe today. They have no influence on their UN controlled governments. A un-elected leader of the EU calls the shots. That same Organization is being called on the usurp our nation. If you do not recognize that, you have missed out on the education that has been taking place in our capital, our intelligence community and national law enforcement organizations. The truth is startling.

    The opponents of your freedoms are not taking it lightly. They are not saying live and let live. They are not just hoping for change. They are active politically. They are active economically. They are in your schools and universities. They are in the main stream media. They are actively and with purpose moving to change the world to their vision and care not about the rule of our laws or our rights. Anything not worth fighting for has no value at all. In my humble opinion countering their actions with swift economic pressure and public outcries are our only defense.

    If our liberties mean nothing to you by all means, don't use your voice or economic power to influence your future.
    Well as for a business, nobody enters into one with the sole idea of making other people happy.
    They do so with the idea of improving their own lives primarily, which hopefully comes as a result of profit.
    None of them are too big to fall, and the smart ones realize that.
    A few decades ago G M was the most profitable corporation in the world.
    Where are they today? And where would they have been without taxpayer help?
    We in fact could use some of the wisdom that has propelled Walmart to run our own government.
    They sell more food items than all the others combined, and they got there from ground zero in about 15 years.
    The globalist movement on the other hand isn’t really something we are only recently seeing take place.
    It has been doing so for a very long time. But those who were sounding the alarm bells like Barry Goldwater for example were criticized as being radical kooks. So were our friends who were involved in organizations like the John Birch society in the 60s.
    We have allowed what amounts to the worlds children to tell us how the world should operate since the end of WW2.
    Even to the point of subsidizing it on our own soil.
    As a result, we are now are now involved in even a bigger war from both without and within if we want to preserve this country as we have known it.
    We should remember that George Patten wasent well liked either among his own peers including Ike, unless/until he really needed him.
    But would the world have been a hell of a lot better off today if it had listened to people like him more than people like Ike?
    We know what needs to be done, fact is the process has already been started, but it could sure use a lot more support.

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    And Hollywood, and J.P.Morgan Chase, Paypal
    All three would go broke if they depended on me.

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    Old thread I know.
    But it's so good to see others whom share the same thoughts, principles, and perspective.

    I simply choose not to feed the above corp beasts above. Loathe Walmart, and anyone who keeps up with the devil and the details with Paypal holds a special place (and substance) in their lower bowels for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nor Cal Mikie View Post
    Between Chris and Jim, you both pretty much covered it. My wife of 55+ years says I get too excited about what goes on around us till she hears it from the talking heads, sees it for herself then, she agrees with me.
    Social media is a BIG problem. Lots of folks running their mouths. Put them FACE TO FACE and the bunch will have nothing to say because of the chance of getting their asses handed to them.
    First thing that comes to mind are the folks dressed in black in Portland, Oregon. Nothing but a bunch of cowards. The bad part is that the Cops are a block away watching the whole show and doing nothing about it because they don't want to cause anymore problems?
    The Man/Woman in charge of the City needs to be FIRED!!
    In a group, the cowards have lots of balls. One on one, they can and will be taken down. They have to go home sometime. A little patience following them will lead to their nest then BOOM, problem solved.
    And my guess is there's folks that are willing to do just that. Got something to say to me? Have the balls to say it to my face or, shut the **** up!!
    Just got around to reading this. THANKS MIKIE! My favorite rant of the year! I totally agree.

    Wal-Mart in New Mexico folded to the gun-control laws brought about by the new swamp mistress governor. No firearms and very little ammunition. However, in coastal South Carolina they still carry lots of firearms and ammunition. Totally different environment and attitude.

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    There is a small sailing/fishing community located in a fairly rural area close to here. One locally owned and operated supermarket that has been around for what seems to be forever. The only one for many miles. Walmart moved in and set up one of their "Express" stores in the town. Mom and Pop closed doors. Apparently Wal *art did not do their market research and closed some of the Express stores, including this one.
    The town was left without a place to buy anything.
    "A part of the community" my hind quarters.

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