I have a model 16 that often fails to completely eject a fired case. What do I need to do to fix this problem?
Thanks for any help.
I have a model 16 that often fails to completely eject a fired case. What do I need to do to fix this problem?
Thanks for any help.
Are you operating the bolt slowly?
What caliber?
There are some fixes, or depending upon what type of shooting you're doing, removing the ejector altogether and picking the brass off the head is one solution I've applied to all my bench shooting rifles. Don't have to worry about losing my carefully prepared brass that way, and it goes right back into the loading tray in the order it came out.
Replacing the ball under the extractor with a 9/64 steel ball may help. A modified extractor kit from SSS will also help. Clipping a turn off the ejector spring might do it too.
In my 223 (with the ejector in place) I found that snapping the bolt back quickly with my finger tips I could catch the case mid flight and place back in the tray. Some still got away from me so I simply removed the ejector. Now I don't have to work so hard.
IME, the 223 are the worst at failing to eject completely. The reason is that as the case is pulled out of the chamber it snaps hard against the bolt lug abutments, leaving a dent in the case just below the shoulder ( I could count the number of cycles on the brass this way) and that jars it out of the grip of the extractor. So now when the barrel is off the action I blend the corner of that abutment to lessen damage to the brass on rifles I used in the field and want to eject normally.
EDIT to correct size of steel ball in extractor per @Robinhoods suggestion. Good catch RH!
Banning a gun will not solve what is a mental health crisis inflamed by incendiary rhetoric on social and television media. The first amendment in this case is less precious and more likely the causal factor than the second amendment.
Replacing the ball under the extractor with a 5/64 steel ball may help. A modified extractor kit from SSS will also help. Clipping a turn off the ejector spring might do it too.
How does a guy go about doing this?
Operate the bolt smartly. Use a piece of tarpaulin to catch the brass.
I always use a 9/64ths ball. Should I be using a 5/64ths.
The Dunning-Kruger effect is alive and well.
If you've never had the bolt apart before, you can search this forum or the interwebs for some instructional videos.
You'll need a 1/16 pin punch to remove the cross pin on the ejector.
The extractor is easier, just slide it off towards the outside of the bolt head. And then order some 9/64 (?!!) steel balls off Amazon. You'll probably get a bag of 100 so you won't have to tear apart your loading room when one launches itself during the process, and that's guaranteed to happen so do your work it inside a plastic bag to catch the flying parts.
Banning a gun will not solve what is a mental health crisis inflamed by incendiary rhetoric on social and television media. The first amendment in this case is less precious and more likely the causal factor than the second amendment.
It can also be weak ejector pin spring or dirty ejector pin:)
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The cartridge is .250 Savage. I operate the bolt in a slow fashion so I can catch the brass, but it seems that most of the time when I open the bolt, the brass just comes out part way and then lays there so I have to reach in with a pencil and grab the case mouth etc. I have taken out the bolt and cleaned around all parts with a dental pick and Ed's Red, and I still have the problem.
Here. https://www.amazon.com/s?k=9%2F64+steel+ball&ref=is_s
You can also use 3.5mm which is less than .004” of the .140” 9/64. I use a 3.5mm Silicon Nitride ball. Much harder than steel and almost indestructible.
Dave,Originally Posted by Dave Hoback
Where can I get one of those 3.5mm silicon nitride balls?
The Dunning-Kruger effect is alive and well.
The Dunning-Kruger effect is alive and well.
LOL! Rob....too funny brother!! LOL!
I got this Shuz. https://www.amazon.com/3-5-CERAMIC-B...-1-spons&psc=1
But you may want to grab a few “just in case”. Pretty easy to lose it. They are sold in packets of 10 for just a couple dollars more. I was certain I would not lose it so only got one. But I have done this many times.
I found packs of 100 on fleabay. I may do that so you guys that let your balls roll off can PM me for a replacement.
The Dunning-Kruger effect is alive and well.
Would one of you folks be willing to send me 5 of those balls for $5.00?
You can’t order it from the link I gave you? It’s Amazon. Who doesn’t use Amazon??
Oops! I guess i missed that link! I just didn't wanna havta buy 100/ea as i saw on one link.
Thanks for the heads up! I'm now worried about where my head might reside!
Lol... hey, I resemble that remark! Hahaha.
Shuz, this is the link for 10 of the 3.5mm ceramic. https://www.amazon.com/uxcell-Cerami...gateway&sr=8-3
And this is 10 of the SS 9/64”. https://www.amazon.com/uxcell-Precis...-1-spons&psc=1
May want to work with the bolt head in a see thru plastic bag, them little balls sure do like to fly around.
short round-
Not a maybe at all. I learned the lesson the hard way on another rifle a while ago. Especially if you have a dog around.
I've been teaching my 5yr old daughter how to put the detent springs, pins and take downs on AR builds and she thinks it's hilarious to see them fly across the shop.. smh.. but shes learning lol:)
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^ yep
The Dunning-Kruger effect is alive and well.
BTW
McmASter Carr or Fastenal. You might pay more for shipping that the product and their minimum count is more than you need.
I had my wife order me some of the steel balls from Amazon. supposed to be here today! ThANKS FOR ALL THE HELP!
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