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    Looking for accuracy advice

    Gentlemen,

    I just got a Axis in 7mm-08 recently, got a hand load I am happy with from the bench at 100 yards. About 1.70 inch groups. This is a hunting rifle, so I am doing a lot of shooting from a sitting and standing position as you would while hunting. Shooting out at 100 yards at clay pigeons, a 4x scope and a sling.

    Sitting position is fairly solid, but from standing not so good. I would say like one out of eight will hit the target. I sure would like to improve that a little.

    Anyone have any advice for improving off-hand shooting?

    Thanks!

    Herb

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    Standing is not an easy position to master. I never did. Basics. Good position. Good trigger work./

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    A good shooting sling can help. Supporting the weight of the rifle on your bodies structure is the important part in holding still. You are going to wobble or have the lazy 8 thing going on. You just need to relax and try to keep the wobble as small as possible.

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    Sadly there is no umbrella answer, the muscles required to hold a rifle in a standing position are not often exercised in common day to day activities so the more you hold your rifle in position the stronger said muscles will become resulting in a more steady hold. It would also be beneficial to use a proper cuff style shooting sling such as a M1907 or a web sling. If you get a web sling I highly recommend cotton over the new nylon models as they are more comfortable and will not slip once adjusted and if buying a 1907 just pay for a good one to begin with such as one by Turner saddlery or a Ron Brown sold by Creedmoor. There are also lots of newer versions of these slings, those are just the ones adopted by the military throughout the years. However a sling isn't really going to help with fast shots in hunting situations unless you spend lots of time practicing getting into the sling and most prefer what they call a hasty sling position which can be achieved with any adjustable sling and is just a modified cuff sling position that's faster to assume, it'll help steady you and is very fast to get into.
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    Thanks for the advice. Yesterday I tightened up the sling a little and brought my supporting elbow way back against my side. Pretty much just held my palm flat up and rested the rifle on it. Pretty solid. Can hit a 4 inch target at 100 yards often enough to build some confidence.... but good to keep in mind a nice spring day at the gun club shooting little clay targets is a lot different than a cold drizzle in October, you are in the brush your feet are soaked and your target is running.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Herby View Post
    Thanks for the advice. Yesterday I tightened up the sling a little and brought my supporting elbow way back against my side. Pretty much just held my palm flat up and rested the rifle on it. Pretty solid. Can hit a 4 inch target at 100 yards often enough to build some confidence.... but good to keep in mind a nice spring day at the gun club shooting little clay targets is a lot different than a cold drizzle in October, you are in the brush your feet are soaked and your target is running.
    That is pretty much how I shoot High Power Silhouette, just no sling as it's not permitted. It takes lots of practice to get your form down and to have trigger control. I would say to get a 3x9 scope or at least get a trigger with a lighter adjustable pull like the Rifle Basix. You can also start by moving the target closer as off the bench that rifle is capable if much tighter groups. Are you reloading for it? It doesn't hurt to make sure the stock isn't too loose or too tight. Same thing with scope screws on the bases and rings, which scope are you using?

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    If you’re hitting a clay pigeon at 100 more often than not, you’re already shooting better than most of us except for the bullshitters. Keep up the good work!

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    Actually, I hesitate to admit but several times deer hunting I have had to take more than one shot.... nerves, excitement, surprise or fatigue - I have missed the first shot. Clean missed. The thing about mule deer seems to be they will run off a little, then stop and look back. This has happened twice. So, knowing how things go for me - my practice includes slow and deliberate shooting, as well as quick and more instinctive shooting of multiple spaced targets. (Bowling pins) The 7mm - 08 is great. Should have switched from the 30-06 long ago.



    By no means am I hitting clay pigeons at 100 yards more often than not from a standing position. Sitting position yes. Bowling pins - quiet a bit bigger yes.

    119 days till deer season!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Herby View Post
    Actually, I hesitate to admit but several times deer hunting I have had to take more than one shot.... nerves, excitement, surprise or fatigue - I have missed the first shot. Clean missed. The thing about mule deer seems to be they will run off a little, then stop and look back. This has happened twice. So, knowing how things go for me - my practice includes slow and deliberate shooting, as well as quick and more instinctive shooting of multiple spaced targets. (Bowling pins) The 7mm - 08 is great. Should have switched from the 30-06 long ago.





    By no means am I hitting clay pigeons at 100 yards more often than not from a standing position. Sitting position yes. Bowling pins - quiet a bit bigger yes.

    119 days till deer season!
    You brought up a good point about mulies. When I lived in New Mexico you could stop a mulie from running/bounding with a loud whistle giving you time to get a shot.
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