Reply With QuoteI hear the magneto speed is a pretty nice one. Might be something to look at? I've been tempted a few times to get one, but the old cheap one we have is still working.
My mid 90's vintage Competetition Electronics ProChrono is on its last leg. Some days it works, others not so much. I have been looking at the current ProChrono DLX as an upgrade. I like the idea of the bluetooth feature and their mobile app, the price fits my budget, and it gets good reviews on several consumer sites.
Before I go down this path, I was wondering if anyone has experience with this particular model or if there is something else that you would recommend.
I hear the magneto speed is a pretty nice one. Might be something to look at? I've been tempted a few times to get one, but the old cheap one we have is still working.
I've had several over the years. I currently have a magneto v3. The sporter models are very nice for the money. For public ranges they're a plus. Labradar are are at the top of the consumer market. It depends on how much use it will get and how much you want to spend.
I have a Magneto Sporter. There is simply nothing smaller or easier to work with. Some disadvantages:
1. It does change POI, typically makes my rifles shoot higher. So remember where you had your scope set for your "active" ammo. Accuracy does not seem to be affected.
2. It needs enough barrel to hang onto, so on an AR or braked barrel you have to slip that through first. This means that if you have a long handguard it will not fit.
3. Because of the brake issue, if the brake is big enough it won't even fit in the first place.
4. Interface is stupid simple, just 1 button. So there is a bit of scrolling and selecting to change things or clear a string....but you get the hang of it pretty quick.
I have seen a guy setup his labradar only to be stymied by some vertical beams holding up baffles...damn thing would just not get a lock on his shots.
I also have a Magnetospeed V3. The biggest plus for me is that I'm not bothering other shooters at the range I shoot at. A downside is that it won't fit on pistols without a rail to attach it to and I have one. I'll be hanging onto my Pact chronograph for my pistol shooting.
Have a magneto speed sported in the mail, but got this based on reviews.
Can the Magneto Speed be be mounted upside down on a lever gun with a full length magazine tube?
Would probably be in your line of sight, maybe at the 9 or 3 position.Originally Posted by Bill2905
I’ve got an inexpensive Caldwell unit. It was cheap and at the time I bought it I was new to reloading and just starting out. It provides accurate enough data that I’m able to establish the ballistics pretty accurately.
Of course there’s always some fine tuning needing to be done however this cheap unit has served me well for 6 years now. But there are better units. The Labradar is nice. Isn’t there a Doppler radar available too now for consumer use.
Been using the MagnetoSpeed for years. Can't go wrong with them.
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The magneto is by far the easiest and most accurate and reliable set up going. Bryan Litz has tested them to be accurate within 2 fps and I can do nothing but confirm this. It attaches easily and quickly without the need of being down range or in front of the muzzle. It will also come with different size spacers to get it set up properly. Muzzle brakes do not affect its performance that I have found and I have used it on sporter barrels all the way up to 1.25" dia barrels with no issue. Don't even bother putting it on if you are doing load development or shooting for accuracy. It blows my mind when people give the Magneto a bad review because it changes point of impact or affects accuracy. Well Duh, of course, it will. Find your load first or test your factory ammo by putting 5 or 10 rounds through it to get your data then take it off. The magneto speed is one of those things that if it ever brakes or wears out I will immediately order a new one. It just works.
Last edited by stomp442; 03-20-2019 at 07:27 PM.
+1. Magnetospeed is simple and accurate while the similar priced stand alone box units with screens are a pain to set up and use.
What?
A chrono is critical to establishing a consistently accurate load. So I have to disagree with the premise or ridiculous idea that load development needs to be done before acquiring velocity data.
My chrono is a critical piece when doing load development. How else does a person work up single digit SD Nd ES
I am sold on the merits of the Magnetospeed. The idea of not having to set up the ProChrono at the right position and waiting for cease fires on the range is too appealing. Thank you for your replies and good advice.
Bill
I let the target tell me what the rifle likes. I have never had a problem getting single digit numbers. How can anyone expect hanging a 12"+ piece of equipment off the end of the barrel held on by merely a strap expect any kind of consistency on paper or down range. I have had lots of single digit loads that didn't shoot that well and lots that did. You are not going to be shooting a match or going hunting with the Magneto attached so why would you ever try to develop a load that way? The side of the barrel barely touching the stock at anyplace can be detrimental to accuracy yet people think the Magneto shouldn't change anything. Boggles my mind.
Got my new Magnetospeed Sporter last week and went to the range with it on Saturday. After making a quick sensitivity adjustment, it worked fine. Much easier than working with my old ProChrono and a lot more productive not having to work around cease fires. Thanks again to all who steered me in this direction.
Good to hear Bill. I have had mine two weeks and still have not had the weather to get to use it.
hmm i will have to keep an eye on mine. First couple tries did not seem to shift my poi for 3 different guns but i only shot 1-2 rounds to get a read. They are bull/varmint type barrels tho
Great to range for the first time with magneto speed sport and have a question for you all.
Can you track more more then one string? Have more then one avg, sd,es, etc...
Have a Gamma Chrony w/ printer;but a lot of places do to ground slope,can't get tripod high enough,Bought a Magneto Sporter,from Brownells on sale for $ 160,very happy w/ it
Labradar..
I don't believe that you can do this. You have to clear the current string to start a new one. That would be a great feature and it's probably available on higher $$ models.
I wish. I was looking into this recently, and I was hoping that the data transfer (XFR) accessory would accomplish this with the phone app, but you have to unplug it to transfer, so it is just as much work. I shoot a string, log everything in my notebook, reset, shoot another.
I have a magneto V3. On my heavy bull barrels such as my fclass comp gun I’ve not noticed a difference in groups with it on or off. I test with it on to get low sd/es. Then sight in without it. POI want off by much. But I usually develop loads with the other rifles with it off and just use to get speed for my StrelokPro after I find a group that shoots well at 300 or 500 yards.
What really nice about it is I can attach to my Ultra 9 and once attached I just screw on each rifle and fire the desired number of rounds. Remove from that rifle and onto the next that I shoot suppresed. Most rifles I shoot suppressed so once the V3 is set up for the suppressor I just reach for the next rifle on the cabinet and screw it on.
Not sure how good the Labradar works but the V3 can be a pain in the ass switching from gun to gun with multiple barrel diameters. There is always the chance you’ll screw up and shoot it (shouldn’t if you pay attention), on smaller barrels I’m sure it would affect the accuracy as it affects barrel harmonics so doing load development or sighting in with it on may not work as well.
But like I said I usually find a good load without it on then use to get the speed after. It’s nice because it can be a downpour or blizzard out, I simply attach the V3, open my window in my reload room, Fire 3 or 5 rounds at my backstop, then close the window and analyze the data. No aligning something 10 feet away, no going down range, and no constant error messages cause you shot to high/low/left/right etc. Weather doesn’t mess with it either. Someday I’d like to get a labradar. But I still see benefits to both
Even though you have already purchased a magnetospeed. I would have suggested a labradar, in funds permitted. My reason for going with a labradar over a magnetospeed is:
No need to "fit" to other guns. Some rifles are just a pain in the arse to get the mag attached and some you just can't, period.
Labradar can be used with handguns, air rifles or arrows.
Yeah, the are more pricey, MAP is $559 here in the US. And you need a tripod or table mount. But, IMO, well worth it. I have used a Mag in the past and would buy another Labradar in a NY minute.
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