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    2014 or newer trigger adjust...shorten the spring ?


    yes it is the same, but mine will not adjust below 3 lbs.
    supposedly they can go down to 2 safely.

    what happens if i slowly shorten the original spring..one coil at a time ?

    EDIT, SAVAGE SAYS my "new" rifle was actually made in 2014. just sat in a stock room somewhere.

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    Just remember to keep enough preload where the trigger and sear keep forced contact on bolt open.
    The Dunning-Kruger effect is alive and well.

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    Oh man! If only there were a way to make the Accutrigger perform like an expensive 2-stage. And for very little cost. That would indeed be something. Oh well...

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    no..just the generally advertised 2lbs.
    i see it everywhere..but on my rifle.
    i may call on monday and see what they say at savage.
    ( i am not a big fan of 2 stage triggers, just singles set light)
    for the record, i am returning a rifle basix's POS sav1
    THEY CLAIM low let off, but at 2lbs the safety quit working.
    it works at 3lbs...my savage trigger works at 3 lbs...duh.
    the instructions said to remove a part that was not there,
    and said to "adjust" 2 screws with no clue how/what was to be expected/
    what was the "adjustment".
    phone said i was the problem and i should return the trigger..i am.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dave Hoback View Post
    Oh man! If only there were a way to make the Accutrigger perform like an expensive 2-stage. And for very little cost. That would indeed be something. Oh well...

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    I’m sorry Mike....inside joke. I don’t use a 2-stage. I have the stock Accutrigger, but I have a couple tricks which turn it into a different beast altogether. It only has a “hint” of a 2-stage in that the Accutrigger Safety is somewhat of a first stage.

    I agree with you on the Rifle Basix trigger. BTW, the 2 screws are the very small set screws located on the bottom of the unit. One for takeup and the other adjusts overtravel. The problem is it uses the STOCK SEAR, which has a horribly uneven surface. By mating the contact surfaces of the trigger & sear, even your 3lb weight would feel super light. 2lb like this feels scary. And any lighter is simply ridiculous! These crazy comp. trigger in the 4-8 OUNCE territory are absolutely terrifying! Your heart beat can darn near set it off!

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    You might just replace the spring with this:http://www.gunshack.com/savage-accu-...able%20trigger

    I don't believe it's actually a Target Accutrigger spring, but rather a Varmint Accutrigger spring. Either way, It'll reduce the pull weight. Due to the design, you can't simply cut coils. But changing the spring and putting a little anti-seize on the sear will help considerably.
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    Try searching for trigger mods, as there is a thread regarding this ^^^
    polishing sear and doing some work to the spring. I have not attempted it. I did replace my spring on my old style 3 screw triger.

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    i actually shoot in bench rest ,light triggers are not new to me.
    this 111 is the basis of a 2000 yard group and score rifle. on the inexpensive side..just a project to play with.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dave Hoback View Post
    I’m sorry Mike....inside joke. I don’t use a 2-stage. I have the stock Accutrigger, but I have a couple tricks which turn it into a different beast altogether. It only has a “hint” of a 2-stage in that the Accutrigger Safety is somewhat of a first stage.

    I agree with you on the Rifle Basix trigger. BTW, the 2 screws are the very small set screws located on the bottom of the unit. One for takeup and the other adjusts overtravel. The problem is it uses the STOCK SEAR, which has a horribly uneven surface. By mating the contact surfaces of the trigger & sear, even your 3lb weight would feel super light. 2lb like this feels scary. And any lighter is simply ridiculous! These crazy comp. trigger in the 4-8 OUNCE territory are absolutely terrifying! Your heart beat can darn near set it off!

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    thanks for the lead on the spring. i will try savage first as it would be TWENTY FIVE US DOLLARS FOR 2 from that source.
    they do not offer first class mail only priority at 8 bucks and a 5 dollar handling fee on a 6 dollar part

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    Look for a SSS Trigger or the SavII. For me, the accutrigger is a POS that is only safe because of the safety blade and has little to do with accuracy.

    If you just have to use one shim the trigger to remove side play and slop. If you have a Dremel with jewelers rouge and a polishing wheel use that too, judiciously of course. Get the proper sear and spring for the desired pull weight.

    I will refine the angles for my own and have tested them extensively. Doing something like that by hand is your own choice. Bump test and bump test more.

    Did I mention finding a used SSS trigger.
    The Dunning-Kruger effect is alive and well.

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    Built in safeties are a good thing. There is a reason NO ONE carries a series 70 1911 without the thumb safety on, but millions don’t think twice about their Glocks NOT having a thumb safety. With that, I’ll say a Dremel & rouge are NOT a triggers friend. If you don’t know exactly what you are doing, better not to do it. Then again, one can only learn by doing. I’ve been setting up triggers on pistols & rifles for the better part of 2 decades! There is a relationship between the trigger/hammer & sear that goes far beyond “make it CHINY mang!” Or spring tension, for that matter! A properly set up trigger is creating 100% consistency between TWO components in two different arc motions, on completely separate planes! So what does that all mean?? Well, it took me a few years to TRULY understand it.

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    Your blowing smoke David. Some are qualified to know it.back.
    The Dunning-Kruger effect is alive and well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robinhood View Post
    Your blowing smoke David. Some are qualified to know it.back.

    Oh I know that.... I wasn’t trying to imply anything. It’s not my responsibility to decide who knows what or not!


    Thanks. I’ve been around. Just waiting for the inevitable. But what you told me made sense to me Robin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikeinco View Post
    thanks for the lead on the spring. i will try savage first as it would be TWENTY FIVE US DOLLARS FOR 2 from that source.
    they do not offer first class mail only priority at 8 bucks and a 5 dollar handling fee on a 6 dollar part
    I don't believe Savage will sell you that spring, but no harm in trying. I get mixed results with Savage Customer Service, it depends upon whom you talk to. Some will sell restricted parts if you sign a waiver. Some will not. I've got several that i bought thinking they were actually "target" trigger springs, but they made no difference on my Varmint Accutriggers. PM me if you still want one, I'll send it to you at no charge just to help out a fellow shooter.

    One thing you might consider is placing a WANT TO BUY ad on here for a Target Accutrigger, and replace your current trigger. I've done this to several of my bench only rifles that came with the varmint trigger. I really like a 6 oz pull on my bench rifles, and it showed on the targets.
    Banning a gun will not solve what is a mental health crisis inflamed by incendiary rhetoric on social and television media. The first amendment in this case is less precious and more likely the causal factor than the second amendment.

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    ok. it is 7:45am and i just got back from TIMNEY triggers.
    i have a 1.5 lb trigger with a working safety something RIFLE BASIX CLAIMED but did not produce.
    SAVAGE WILL NOT SELL TRIGGER PARTS...only to ffl's that then jack up the price and resell them.
    bbl blank, not a prefit,will be here monday, scope on friday, not sure on the stock.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikeinco View Post
    ok. it is 7:45am and i just got back from TIMNEY triggers.
    i have a 1.5 lb trigger with a working safety something RIFLE BASIX CLAIMED but did not produce.
    SAVAGE WILL NOT SELL TRIGGER PARTS...only to ffl's that then jack up the price and resell them.
    bbl blank, not a prefit,will be here monday, scope on friday, not sure on the stock.
    Did you have them set something up for you? Interested in your specs. Far as the bbl blank..do you have your own lathe to turn yourself, or are you having someone do it?

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    I DO MY OWN LATHE WORK
    build my own rifles
    since the RIFLE(less than)BASIX was such a pos, and i wanted both a low pull and a working safety
    i had them install this trigger.
    i have done a ton of 700's and ar triggers, but not so on savage.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dave Hoback View Post
    Did you have them set something up for you? Interested in your specs. Far as the bbl blank..do you have your own lathe to turn yourself, or are you having someone do it?

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    Very, very cool! What profile is your your barrel? Oh and what scope are putting on it?

    Savages aren’t any different a concept than any other. Flat polished parallel surfaces, Opposing planes and Arc rotation. But Timney Is a good choice. Have always been fond of them. Looking forward to seeing this rifle completed. Make certain you do a “Build” thread on the home builds forum here.

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    i should start a new thread
    this is a "inexpensive" 2000 yard group and score rifle
    boyds varmint stock laminate
    stock 111 la recvr plus a thicker recoil lug
    timney trigger
    krieger mtu 28" bbl 8" straight at 1.250, then taper to .965,
    will be match 300 win mag, neck turned, 3/4-24 for 9" suppressor( already own, so no cost)
    egw 0 moa hd base, ivey 150 moa adjustable rings( got them 1/2 off) and 12-42x nf scope..(blew the budget there)
    object is to shoot 220 solids at over 2800
    shot off a hunting bipod and rear bag

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    Sounds sweet! Yes, make sure to do a build thread. I hope to build an ultra long range rig in 7mm-300 in the future.

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    Mr. Miller. What are your thoughts on a 300PRC?
    The Dunning-Kruger effect is alive and well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robinhood View Post
    Mr. Miller. What are your thoughts on a 300PRC?
    You thinking about that cartridge for a future build Rob? I’ve taken a look at it. Certainly dies look promising, although both the 300WM & 300WSM can run the same super high BC pills at equal velocities with an extended throat. And the design of the PRC just screams “Barrel Burner”! On the other hand, Frank Green gives it a “thumbs up”, talks of how awesome it is and even uses it in Open F class comp. He says barrel life is equal to 300WSM. I certainly tend to close my mouth and perk up my ears when Frank G speaks on barrel/cartridge regards...I am planning on using one of his barrels on next go around after all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave Hoback View Post
    You thinking about that cartridge for a future build Rob?
    No sir. I was thinking of necking it down to 7mm
    The Dunning-Kruger effect is alive and well.

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    i would suggest that if you really mean LONG range, that you rethink the 7.
    necking down any case to 7 means higher gas velocity thru the neck and shorter bbl life.
    there are no big heavies in 7 mm
    for my 2000 yards shooting i am at 230. 220(30's) ,275 and 300(338s) grain bullets
    all are super sonic at 2k
    26-28" bbls actually truck axles not hunting bbls. 7-8 lbs.
    so define long range in your case
    Quote Originally Posted by Robinhood View Post
    No sir. I was thinking of necking it down to 7mm

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    The 7mm Practical is already surpassing 2K yds easily. Both Sierra & Berger have 195gr+ pills with ridiculous BC’s...the Sierra(197gr) being .780 and the Berger at an “other worldly” .814!! That & barrel life has been recorded to and beyond 1200rds. No, 7mm is exactly what I want to do next, as I am not interested in moving on to 338 Lapua, 408 Chey. Or 50BMG. Not interested in supersized actions/barrels, etc.

    Necking down the PRC seems like a good idea.

    Or...maybe I’ll just say fagetabout, and do a 20mm Anzio (Vulcan) instead!(LOL., kidding of course. Just pointing to the fact there is always BIGGER...FASTER...MORE!! Where do ya draw the line?)

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