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    22-250


    Anyone on here shoot this caliber much? I have no experience with it, but was looking at maybe getting one for a varmint gun. I already have .223's in AR platforms, is the 22-250 different enough from that cartridge to make it worth getting? The big thing I read about it is it can be pushed to close to 4000 fpm, but have never shot one and don't know anyone that does.

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    is the 22-250 different enough from that cartridge to make it worth getting?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sled View Post
    Anyone on here shoot this caliber much? I have no experience with it, but was looking at maybe getting one for a varmint gun. I already have .223's in AR platforms, is the 22-250 different enough from that cartridge to make it worth getting? The big thing I read about it is it can be pushed to close to 4000 fpm, but have never shot one and don't know anyone that does.
    Heck yeah, 22.250 is one of the best varmint rounds. Extremely fast and flat shooting with velocities upwards of 4000' per 2nd you can easily get varments 6 to 800 yd away

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    Will the 22 creedmoor ever catch up?
    The Dunning-Kruger effect is alive and well.

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    Yeah, great, thanks... now I want one... lol. Looks like Savage's only offering in LH with the Accustock is the 110 Storm SS.... not my first choice, but I'll have to see if I can find one to look at in person.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robinhood View Post
    Will the 22 creedmoor ever catch up?
    I dont know if catch up is right words, they are kinda different class.. most 22.250 do best with 55gr on down, mine is dead balls accurate with 62gr ss109. The 22 creedmoor typically using 75-77gr bullets.. of course all that is just averages... things can vary with barrel twist, throat depth.. example, I cant chamber a 75gr eld in my 22.250 without seating it way to deep, deeper than I'm willing to try shooting

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sled View Post
    Yeah, great, thanks... now I want one... lol. Looks like Savage's only offering in the Accustock is the 110 Storm SS.... not my first choice, but I'll have to see if I can find one to look at in person.
    You may look at Thomson/S&W 22.250. they come with 1 moa or better guarantee and they are very affordable.

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    I love the 22-250 and the "110 storm' predecessor was the model 16. The model 16/116 are some of my favorites though more of a standard hunting rig and lighter than a "varmint" rifle. I too shoot left handed and do prefer left handed rifles but have no problem with my right handed model 12BVSS in 22-250. That joker will put 8 55gr Vmax in a spot you can cover with a dime with ease and turns nutria rats into red mist as far as you can see em. The young ones like to shoot it too :)
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    I had the same issue I have AR 223 that I thought was pretty good accuracy for what it is. 10 shots in 1-1/2” at 100 yards. I got a 22-250 sr an auction for cheaper than the store price. I thought it was a great deal. I loaded some 35 Gr hor NTX and shot .071. And the velocity is 4350 FPS. Wow I can’t think of another round going that fast. Absolutely love the 22-250. It doesn’t like H335 powder though that is what I use in my ar. It likes Varget. The seating depth is kind of finicky but when you find the round you will be happy.


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    Lclevenger,

    The .22-250 has a larger volume brass than the .223/5.56x45. That changes the dynamics of the powder choices.
    I have also found that the slower powders that are mainstays for the .308 also shoot best in the .22-250.

    I just about wore out my original Remington 700 in .22-250. The old .22-250s had 1:14 twists that pretty much restricted the bullets to 55 grains and under.
    I shot about 5000 rounds through that old rifle and it is about shot out so I replaced it with a 11 VT that I got on an incredible sale.
    It shoots about 23% smaller groups with the same bullets but I don't have a lot of data to prove it.

    I bought to 6.5mm Creedmoor Savages at just about the same time and got captured by 6.5mm CM's accuracy.

    As you already found out, you can really push light bullets to incredible velocities out of a .22-250..
    I regularly shot 40 grain Nosler Ballistic tips between 4,000 and 4,100 fps and they were like grenades on prairie dogs.

    I think you'll have fun with your .22-250 and the 1:12 twist will let you try some heavier bullets.
    I tried up to 60 grains in my 1:14 twist but, while it appeared to stabilize them, they didn't shoot accurately.
    My old Remington shot the 52 and 53 grain bullets the best and it really liked the 52 gr flat base Berger #22408 and Sierra 53 gr flat base SMK.
    My new Savage also liked them the best but I haven't tried anything heavier.
    I expect it to do well with the 55 Berger FB #22410 also but I haven't gotten around to trying them yet.

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    I have1/4 moa from 38gr of h380.. I've tried probably 6 different powders and all have been acceptable but h380 has been exceptional.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ted_Feasel View Post
    I have1/4 moa from 38gr of h380.. I've tried probably 6 different powders and all have been acceptable but h380 has been exceptional.

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    There's a reason it's called H380. Every .22-250 I have ever owned or messed with will shoot 38.0gr of H380 at half MOA or better with your choice of 52-55gr bullets. The problem with it is that it is not temp stable and you can see pretty good velocity swings with temperature changes. H4895 has become my powder of choice with the light bullets these days.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stomp442 View Post
    There's a reason it's called H380. Every .22-250 I have ever owned or messed with will shoot 38.0gr of H380 at half MOA or better with your choice of 52-55gr bullets. The problem with it is that it is not temp stable and you can see pretty good velocity swings with temperature changes. H4895 has become my powder of choice with the light bullets these days.
    Yeah, I've read the story of the old man hogdon.. pretty neat little story:) it is what made me try h380 when I started loading my 22.250.. temp sensitive doesnt really bother me to much.. I don't go out to the range in extreme cold lol

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    When I first took up the sport I overlooked the 22 cals. Big mistake. I ended up with a model 12 in 22-250 I got on sale. 12 twist. Shot 53 grain vmax at anywhere from 3600-4000ft/s into one hole. I’ve since turned it into a 7 twist with a heavy shilen prefit barrel that puts 90-95 grain smk into a 4 inch circle at 1000 meters. It’s the most consistent rifle I own. I will have a fast twist high velocity 22 cal for the rest of my life. They are just such a great cartridge to shoot. So versatile.
    And the ease of tuneability coupled with the availability of 95 grain pills make it a viable ELR cartridge. I hit my first 1000 meter pop can with it.

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    Just got a 12FV heavy barrel 22-250. That gun is a laser! It’s my new favorite caliber. Still really popular - see a lot of people who shoot it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OldSchoolShooter View Post
    Just got a 12FV heavy barrel 22-250. That gun is a laser! It’s my new favorite caliber. Still really popular - see a lot of people who shoot it.
    Sounds like the same thing happened to you that happened to me with a heavy barrel savage 22-250. Mines also a model 12.It used to be a 12 twist however because the rifle was mind blowingly accurate and consistent I turned it into a target rifle.
    As a 12 twist I originally bought the rifle as a truck gun. I figured the 22 cal is fine for dispatching any highway injured game,varmints and vermin and of course deer.
    Mine shot the 53 grain vmax into one hole from 3800ft/s to 4000ft/s. It printed sub MOA from 3600ft/s up to max charge as well,using cfe223. Cfe223 has some kind of copper cleaning agent to lessen the copper fouling. That’s what CFE stands for. Copper fouling eraser. And at the velocity the 22250 is capable of,and using the 53 grain and lighter projectiles is a recipe for copper fouling,however I’ve gone as far as 400 shots before consistency was affected and the copper reached critical mass,and I was forced to clean it. Before using cfe223 it was closer to 100 shots before the copper solvent came out of the box.
    Point being the 22-250 has had new life breathed into it because of the availability of faster twist barrels making the cartridge more capable of being used for ELR AS ELR is the new trend in the community and the sport has literally “blown up”

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    Thanks for the post. Have to try the CFE. Been using H380 with 55 grain Hornady FMJ boattails. Did you replace the stock on yours? The gun is definitely front heavy.

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    I got a FV12 in 22/250 late last year, and right now my load is 38.1g of H380 with the 53g vmax, giving a .5" group on a regular basis. Factory ammo with 55g was < 1MOA, can't complain at all. I get similar groups with the 53g Nosler Varmegeddons as well, it will work on a pdog or ghog.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jpx2rk View Post
    I got a FV12 in 22/250 late last year, and right now my load is 38.1g of H380 with the 53g vmax, giving a .5" group on a regular basis. Factory ammo with 55g was < 1MOA, can't complain at all. I get similar groups with the 53g Nosler Varmegeddons as well, it will work on a pdog or ghog.
    38 gr of h380 and 55gr hornady give me 1/4 moa and better but something that I tried for the heck of it and ended up getting astounding accuracy was 37gr h380 with 62gr ss109 hornady penetrators

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    A surprising accurate combo I found with my model 12 was 37gr of R17 with 69gr match kings. They would consistently print in the .3s and give about 3400fps.

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