I purchased a Savage 16 in .308. It came with a Nikon 3-9 X 40 bdc recticle scope. Whenever I increase the power greater than 3x the scope builds a black ring making the viewing area smaller. What am I doing wrong or is it just my poor eyesight?
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How far away from your eye is the eyepiece lens? There should be a "sweet spot" where you see minimal "scope" around the edges of the image, even at 9x.
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Resting my cheek about mid length of the butt stock. Scope was factory mounted.
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Probably worked fine for the guy (or girl) any the factory. But you are not them and may have a different neck length and head shape.
I never trust factory base mountings to begin with. I disassemble the base and rings and put them on solidly and in the right place for me.
"One size fits most". But not all.
"They couldn't hit an elephant at this distance." Last words of Gen. Sedgwik
This is good advice.
I had a factory mounted scope on a Savage Axis and when I got to the range I couldn't get a decent grouping.
Found that the base mount screws weren't tightened down, much less torqued to the receiver.
Took the rifle back home and removed everything and used some acetone to clean the threads, broke out the locktite and started to assemble back up.
Dave
I totally agree with Stumpkiller,
The factory mounting is generic.
Each scope must be custom fit to the shooter & rifle. The scope must be moved forward or back to match your fit/eye relief with the rifle.
My guess that someone at your range would help you with this. Search online for "how to mount a rifle scope". There probably is U-tube videos showing this also.
The eye relief is shorter at higher magnifications, so you will have to bring the scope closer to your eye as you increase the power on your scope.
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Jester
Like many have said, the scope isn't set up properly for your body. Crank the magnification to the max and move the scope forward just till you get a full site picture.
David
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Thank you for your advice. I tried moving the scope closer to my eye and it improved. Now the second question. Looking at my scope bases there is little room for adjustments. Does anyone make a single plate to allow the scope to move back? See attached photo. Thank you.
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Yes, you can get a 1 piece picatinny rail that will allow mor adjustment and better ring placement. I would reccomend getting one from EGW.Thank you for your advice. I tried moving the scope closer to my eye and it improved. Now the second question. Looking at my scope bases there is little room for adjustments. Does anyone make a single plate to allow the scope to move back? See attached photo. Thank you.
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Jester
I'll second the EGW scope rail.
Weaver may make a one piece base for a round back short action and it sits lower than the EGW rail. I have one on a long action that works pretty good. I also have an EGW rail on a long action and I had to add a piece to the stock due to the increased height of the rail.
Olddave is right.
The Dunning-Kruger effect is alive and well.
I think you can get a longer front base. One that would over hang the front of the ejection port by about 1/8"-3/16th. The one piece base is definitely stronger.
A Weaver base #402 will allow the scope to move up to an inch toward the shooter. If I were buying the Weaver #402, I would also replace the rear base with a Weaver #46 use to be sure the height of both is the same.
I'm always trying to shave weight off my hutning rifles, so that's what I use - the Weaver base with the extended portion on the front of the receiver. That allows me a little room to position the scope forward and back.
I also agree about checking and replacing the factory mounts. I've never kept a single Savage factory mount and I've pulled a bunch off my buddy's rifles over the years to fix their shooting issues. It's disappointing to me, that inexpensive as quality bases and mounts are, Savage continues to put NON-WEAVER COMPATIBLE steel bases and POS rings on their package rifles. Their rifles and the package Nikon scopes deserve better. In every case where I've had or seen a problem, the bases and rings were literally the weak link. I would never trust those and definitely wouldn't trust that they were mounted correctly by someone at the factory, much less bore sighted anywhere close.
Get used to doing your own research and work on your rifle, and you will be very happy in the long run. You have a great rifle and a very good scope. That's the expensive stuff. The rest is cheap and easy to replace.
Leupold bases are another option. Very inexpensive and don't raise the scope like a one piece rail does. Another benefit is the Leupold bases are windage adjustable so you can set your scope windage to mid range, then adjust the rear scope mount to bring POI into center. That way you will have full windage adjustment if that's the way you prefer to shoot.
https://www.cabelas.com/product/LEUP...CK/1998198.uts
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Any idea if these will work on an Axis XP short action?
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Yes you can use the 2 piece for sure.
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Alot of scopes - including cheaper ones - have adjustable eye-relief on the near end of the tube, separate from the magnification ring - are you certain that yours doesn't have this ability? I have a cheap $160 Bushnell on my Savage 110, and it has about 1.4" of eye relief adjustment through turning the large end by your eye
I do not see any adjustment on the eye relief.
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Um that is the focus adjustment..... on all scopes
The Dunning-Kruger effect is alive and well.
Am I wrong or is all Axis action the same length (long action) regardless of caliber. If they are long actions then they will benefit from using a one piece base, allowing for greater adjustments.
Awesome!Not sure.... Would be nice
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