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    223 ai oal

    Just picked up a mdl 11 in 223 for a build in 223 AI. I see that the longest OAL I'm going to be able to get in this magazine will be 2.30". I don't have the barrel yet but it will be a 1-8 twist to maybe play with some heavy bullets. Are the aftermarket barrels throated longer than the factory ones? Already sold off the old sporter barrel. I don't want a single shot. Anyone else have this problem and if so how did you correct it?
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    You should be able to tell the smith how you want it throated. I would just think if they throat it short then you'll lose powder capacity especially with the longer bullets.
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    Well if he loses powder capacity, whats the point to the AI?
    Why not a 22x250 or a 220 Swift and call it a day?

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    Improving the .223 only gains you 1/2 grain in water capacity.....that's why P.O. Ackley never done it, he knew it was a waste of time.
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    If I took the block out of the magazine what follower could I use for reliable feeding?
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    Got the barrel and turns out I have the opposite problem,this thing is throated way too short. 40 gr Vmax seated to the lands is only 2.20" oal.
    "An armed society is a polite society"
    "...shall not be infringed" What's the confusion?

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    On the plus side I had a .40" 4 group average at 100 yds with fireforming loads.
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    "...shall not be infringed" What's the confusion?

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    The way to fix that (OAL restriction) is use a stagger feed action, or convert to AICS style single stack which feed AI's perfect.

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    This is a staggered feed. AI loads feed horrible and forget about hollow points.
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    Capacity increase is not great but, since I went AI, I hardly ever have to trim brass.

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    I think I have my feeding problem fixed. I pulled the barrel off and chamfered the chamber with my case deburring tool and polished it with flitz. Loads slide right in now. Woo-Hoo!
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    Quote Originally Posted by 243LPR View Post
    I think I have my feeding problem fixed. I pulled the barrel off and chamfered the chamber with my case deburring tool and polished it with flitz. Loads slide right in now. Woo-Hoo!
    Hmmmmmm, very interesting!

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    Was this a McGowan?

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    Yes,and mfr. help was nonexistant. Last McGowen for me.
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