I ordered two 12 FV's from Cabela's a week ago Sunday. One in 6.5 Creed and one in .223. These are the first Savages I've ever owned. I own a number of Remington 700s, ARs, Mausers, Ruger pistols, S&W pistols, shotguns, etc. but no Savages. I can't wait until they come in so I can try them out. I also hope to learn a lot while I'm here.