Did a lot of reading on 308 ammo, all the stuff. Came up with the best ammo for my gun and me, I can shoot under or right at 1 inch at 160 yards, with 150 grain Winchesters. Savage 20 inch bull barrel vt11, Going to sight in at 3 inches high at 100 so I will be good out too 300, with a dead on hold. I should be right at or a little over 2 inches at 300. Not bad thanks