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.5 MOA is .5 MOA really... I've only shot my SSG out to 300 yards but at 100, 200, and 300 yds I can hold .5 MOA when I do my part. If the rifle groups 1/2" at 100yds it should group 2.5" at 500yds. That said, with greater distance comes greater influence of the environment and the shooters ability to compensate for wind and other factors I'm not experienced with. I can shoot 1.5" at 300 yds but I won't claim I can shoot 2.5" groups at 500 yds. I'd love to try but I don't have access to that kind of yardage right now.Originally Posted by Rondogg
Don't like it ......ugly!
Ron,
What they are trying to say is that the accuracy standard seems to 1MOA for target size. So at 570 yards you should be able to hit a 12" (2MOA) target consistently with no trouble. The 2ft x 2ft target is 4 MOA should be down right easy to hit at that distance in most conditions. There are several things that can cause issues with groups including something as simple as how hard you squeeze your fingers around the stock. I use a 18" x15" (inch) for 1k shooting. When I set it up at 675 yards, it is absolutely boring.
The other part that they were trying to say is that the RPR and the Stealth are not really the same. The RPR was basically a ground up build to offer the market a lower priced rifle that has all of the tactical ( or tacticool) features they want. The Stealth is still a 12 action, just put in a lighter chassis. I have shot the RPR in 6.5 Creed out to 800 yards and it did very well, cannot complain at all about it. It did not shoot as small of groups as the LRP Creed that shot next to it but was close enough that it could have been rifle variances. The one I shot seemed to be well worth the $1050 my store list them for. It is NOT the end all, be all to rifles, it shoots nice and has the looks that is popular these days. There is no way I would pay some of the ridiculous prices I hear people tell me they paid. One customer said he paid $2K for his. Why? It absolutely is not worth that.
More shooting, less typing.
Mehh. Looks like an LSS chassis.
Jamie I really appreciate your answers.
Is that good or bad if it is an LSS chassis? I have read they area chassis from Drake Associates. As Jamie stated it will be the Savage 12 action in a Drake chassis. From what I have read the 10 and 110 BA rifles shoot fantastic. Hope the new Stealth is lighter and shoots as well as it big brothers. Thanks
From Drake's page on Savage:
Drake formed a systems integration team with Savage Arms, MDT, MAKO/FAB Defense, Hogue and LBE. Initially we called upon MDT technologies to design a special Drake variant of their proven and popular LSS model.
We added many features and modifications that were adopted from our experience in the US Military and Special Operations community. The chassis system also incorporated a Left Hand / Right Hand design. These chassis were exclusively built to Drake Specifications by the MDT team. We called this new platform the Hunter Stalker LWSS...
It is indeed based on our LSS-XL chassis, and manufactured by us, with a number of changes requested by Savage and Drake.
I bought the RPR in .308 a while back and was going to sell it because I couldn't get much better than 1.5 MOA out of it. Then it occurred to me to have Benchmark Barrels make me a new barrel for the rifle. Now it is a tack driver. I'm glad I kept the chassis.
Some interesting reading on that link DrThunder. I'd like to hear what the actual operators thought compared to the guy trying to boost his future sales. I strongly believe that the accuracy was acceptable. I just have a hard time believing that the action functioned to the capability required for use in very austere conditions. I.E. Sand storms, rain, snow, mud and everything else that proves an actions capabilities.
I just have yet to see a Savage action make it through one of our matches out here on the west coast without some type feeding, ejection, or extraction issues. That was my experience and the experience of those running them. Maybe they do better on the east coast where there is less sand and dust blowing around? I will never argue the accuracy when using a Savage action, but the reliability factor will always linger in the back of my mind.
To my understanding of what I have read on the stealth rifles, the actions are trued. Should be better than regular stock savages.
Savage 10 FCP-SR 308, 300BO PCS
Blue printing doesn't fix a weak extractor and ejector design.....
That's the difference in the big money AI rifles and others versus an out of the box Savage under $1000. I live in Phx, same conditions as So Cal and have watched more than 1at the AZ long range matches shoot out of the box Savages and strongly compete with the big money rifles. As well as I have seen those big money rifles fail on the line. I ordered the new Savage 10 BA stealth in 6.5 and will see how it does when it arrives. With what Savage has done I expect that it perform better than the RPR.
Can't wait for your review. I was considering a stealth but the 10T came in 6.5cm finally so decided to build that one up. Should be a sweet performer.
Savage 10 FCP-SR 308, 300BO PCS
I would love to put my name down to order one of these.
Anyone know where to do that?
Thanks
Spring is here so not sure whats taking savage so long to get them to the stores? Suggest calling savage and see what they say.
Savage 10 FCP-SR 308, 300BO PCS
I'm sure it will be fantastic. I have a HS3 coming myself, I was just expecting something different is all and the only picture I have seen thus far is the lss look alike. By no means is it a negative otherwise. The XL is one I would go with :)
No clue but there aren't on the website either
There is a link to lipsy if you want to see what they look like. I posted that after snooping around the net. On the 1st page of this thread.
Savage 10 FCP-SR 308, 300BO PCS
I know how the look like 😉
But they are still not advertised on the Savage website
We all know what they look like! No more gun porn, we want the real thing... In our hands!
Spoke to Bill Dermody this morning via email and writer samples are still a month or so away, so I would guess late May or sometime in June for them to hit the dealers.
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So much for a spring release. Was pumped up for the stealth. I jumped on a 10T 6.5 and already changed out the chassis. The ashbery will be interesting when they come out in the fall.
Savage 10 FCP-SR 308, 300BO PCS
theyre out got my 6.5 creedmoor stealth in my hands today
I had placed an order and paid for the Stealth 6.5 in January after shot show. I checked with Savage every week on the status of my order and was told each time they are running behind in production. So in June Savage finally told me it would possibly be sometime in November before I would get my rifle. I told Savage to shove their rifle and asked to get my money back. Got my check Monday.
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