McMillan and Manners stock Palm Swell?

**AROKHUNTER** · 01-05-2016, 01:57 PM

I am looking at either a McMillan or a Manners stock for a build. The Manners stocks that I am looking at are the EH1 and the T6. The McMillan stocks of interest are the A5, A3, or A2. My issue is the palm swell. I had Manners send me a sample stock of the EH1 and the T6. They will work, but I am wondering if McMillan stocks have less, or more, palm swell? I know that I do not want a stock with any more palm swell than the Manners EH1 or T6. I have small to medium hands with "not so long fingers". I have not seen any of the McMillan stocks, since I live way back in the boonies. So if anyone has had experience with the stocks that I have mentioned, can you please share your thoughts, and possibly some pictures of the grip area of the stocks? Any and all input would be greatly appreciated.

**clintsrv** · 01-06-2016, 10:46 AM

This is an A3 Sporter. I'm not 100% but I believe A2, A3 and A5 all share the same downward grip and palm.

**AROKHUNTER** · 01-06-2016, 01:14 PM

clintsrv---

Thanks a lot for the pics! That helps a lot.

**AROKHUNTER** · 01-06-2016, 01:24 PM

clintsrv---

Would you say that you have small, medium, large hands? Short or long fingers?

**clintsrv** · 01-06-2016, 02:14 PM

Large hands I guess kind of short fingers.
That's funny as I don't describe the size of my hands often.

My next MCM stock will be an A5. I've had many Manners stocks and still own a few now and to me they are not as nice as an MCM.
I do however like the many styles MCS offers.

I have an MCM Gamescout on a R700 that's has little to no swell from what I remember and it's very similar to the A3 Sporter. I'll get photos tonight to confirm the swell on it.

**clintsrv** · 01-07-2016, 09:15 PM

Here the Gamescout. I was unavailable last night. There is a swell (slightly) on the Gamescout. The grip is slightly different in the hand between these 2 that I'm comparing. I like the feel 100% on both and both rifles perform great.

**clintsrv** · 01-07-2016, 09:25 PM

One more I can contribute if the HTG. It has virtually no swell. Not as much downward grip either but very practical for many purposes.

**AROKHUNTER** · 01-08-2016, 12:30 AM

clintsrv---

I really appreciate the pics and the info! I have smaller hands than you. My hands are small to medium. So, I am not sure about the palm swell since you say you have large hands and the grips with palm swell fit you well. Hmmm.....,

**Londerko** · 01-08-2016, 02:02 AM

Clint,
How to you like the HTG?
Good all around hunting stock?
I know this is off topic, but how do you release the bolt? I don't see a top bolt release, and I don't see the one on the trigger guard either.
Thanks -Leo

**clintsrv** · 01-08-2016, 03:54 AM

If I must release the bolt I have to remove to trigger guard and use an Allen wrench to push the lever.
All of my BBR actions I operate in the manner.
The HTG is an extrmely nice stock very much suited for many applications. Very versatile.

It's also cheaper than the others

**Londerko** · 01-08-2016, 10:01 AM

Thanks Clint,
I have a BBR that I put a steel trigger guard on and am putting in a TBR release stock.
I've been debating about having the reviever milled and converted to TBR sear, or doing exactly what you did.
I have a Stockade Mule Deer stock on order that looks very similar to your HTG, depending on how it turns out I may try the HTG on the next build.
Thanks for the info

**clintsrv** · 01-08-2016, 11:36 AM

I wouldn't mill the receiver at all. The action has a smooth look.
If you will be installing BBR action in a TBR stock just slightly mill the inside of stock to adapt for the lever.
Usually top bolt release stock have a narrower triggerguard channel cut which prevents using BBR triggerguards

You can use standard trigger guards with BBR stocks. Bushings may be required to offset and height.