Reply With QuoteSome guys on here run the primary arms and have good luck with them. Not sure about the falcon. The BSA I wouldn't trust to hold a zero on a spud gun....but that's just my .02 on that
Hello everyone, new guy here. I have recently got bitten by the FFP scope and long range bug. I have a 110 7mm rem mag that will be my (hopefully) LR gun. I have never owned a FFP scope, so to get my feet wet so to speak, I have been looking at the PA, BSA, and Falcon Menace scopes. From what I have read, All three seem to by fairly descent for the given price, but I haven't seen any info on any of them being used on a magnum rifle. Does anyone have any experience with any of them? Thanks for any input.
Some guys on here run the primary arms and have good luck with them. Not sure about the falcon. The BSA I wouldn't trust to hold a zero on a spud gun....but that's just my .02 on that
Have you looked at the super sniper scopes?
They who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.
I had my Primary Arms 4-14x44mm FFP scope on my .300 Win Mag for a while but switched up to a SWFA SS. I want to say the old web page for the scope said it was "rated" or some such up to .308 Winchester or .30-06, which was one of the reasons for the switch. However, I hadn't and haven't had any problems with it on that rifle or its current host. It suffered through at most 100 rounds of light weight hunting loads in the Win Mag, which is by no means proof that it's magnum-ready, but it is right at home on my .243 Winchester.
The worst things about the scope are the turrets, which are a little soft and indistinct, and the eye relief being a bit finnicky at high magnifications, which is characteristic of many low-dollar scopes. I got another of the same scopes more recently and was pleased to find the turrets were a bit more positive in their clicks, though the hashmarks were still misaligned.
Oh and newsflash: The 4-14x44mm FFP scope with the ACSS Orion reticle is on sale for $199.99 with promo code HUNTING. It comes bundled with a set of rings as well.
I would buy the standard Mil-Dot in a heartbeat for $199.00, the ACSS Reticle gives me a seizure.Oh and newsflash: The 4-14x44mm FFP scope with the ACSS Orion reticle is on sale for $199.99 with promo code HUNTING. It comes bundled with a set of rings as well.
AXIS 7mm-08 , 22-250
I have looked at the SWFA SS scopes, but without ever owning a fixed power scope, I'm not sure if I want to go that route. This will be an all purpose rifle of sorts. It is my primary elk hunting rifle as well as a long range target rifle. If it was solely a target rifle, I would probably go with a 20x SS in a heartbeat. I think I would have to agree with Rosco. Their Orion reticle is a little much. I would much rather have a mil dot or hash mark reticle like on the BSA.
What is your price range?
Trying to stay in the $300 range. But, when funds permit If I could find a Viper PST FFP for a descent price, I might be able to stretch a little.
If i was you id save and get the pst because if thats the scope you want you wont be satisfied with anything else... check bearbasin.com they have good deals on trade ins and used optics.
Dans85 if you are military or Leo then definitely go with vortex. Just call them and they will hook you up.
Originally Posted by Kadams1563
Never even thought about this...bearbasin gives huge dicos for LEO and MIL too.
Thanks for the tip, but unfortunately I've never served. I'm hoping to find a good deal on a viper, but as of now I haven't seen anything pop up yet. I did a little research on some of the fixed power SWFA scopes. I am really intrigued by them in several aspects. Being a mechanic by trade I really appreciate the simplicity of a fixed power scope. Not to mention that every post that I've read about them says that the glass quality on a fixed power is quite a bit better than a variable power scope in the same price range, and a few posts are comparing the glass to scopes in the $1000 range. As said before, it will be on my elk/ target rifle, so I am seriously considering either a 10x or 12x as kind of an all around scope. I have noticed that I tend to stay on 10x-12x now as it is. The main thing I am looking for is something that will be within my budget and will still allow me to reach 1000 yds and be able to handle magnum recoil.
Last edited by Dans85; 10-25-2015 at 10:52 PM.
I'm not necessarily dead set on a viper, but that seems to be about the best FFP scope for under $1000.
The SIII listed in the classifieds would do all that n some. Better rep for durability.
If you go with SWFA get the 10x mil/mil.
Depending on terrain and vegetation, I would shy away from 10x or more fixed power if there's a chance you'll be hunting anything close (0-100 yards), but that's just me.
After a lot of thinking and weighing the options, I think I'm going to save up for a Viper PST 4-16x50 FFP. So far it seems to be a really good value for the given price.
Good idea...call the guys at bear basin they might have a trade in within your price range.
Will do, Thanks for the help guys.
I've got four of the BSA FFP Mil Mil scopes on 22's, I've dialed them up and down a bunch shooting out to 300M and they have held up well. Don't think the recoil should be an issue.
Well there would be one sure way of finding out. But best not to do that when your on your once a year 3 day hunt.
Yep, but since I usually shoot 100-200 rounds a month on my centerfire rifle that wouldn't be a problem for me. :) I know they're labeled BSA but put them side by side with the primary arms scope and other than the reticle they look the same. I have both I'll get a pic of them together. The BSA has a mil-hash reticle that I like better than the mil-dot.
OP, you might also look for the weaver 3-15, http://www.amazon.com/Weaver-Tactica.../dp/B004NRXLN4 I think the glass is a little better than the Vortex.
I was the same way until I moved up to a higher quality scope. Once you have one that is clearer at 15-20x that the lower value one was at 10-12x, you'll find you'll use the higher power more often. I would save up for the PST or a Bushnell HDMR. I spent almost a year wishing I had just got the Gen 2 Razor instead of the Gen 1 Razor. Gen 1 was a great scope no doubt, but the Gen 2 fixed the few things I had issues with and added some features that I enjoy very much. It's worth it to have better glass and features. The 4-16 PST would be plenty for what you want to do.
Power depends to a large degree what you do with the scope. Will you use it for hunting, or will it be strictly a target scope?
And if used for hunting, the type of terrain will also figure into what might work best. Field of view size is extremly important
for follow up shots where recoil (could) cause the target to be temporarily lost from view. Where many of us hunt the hills we shoot at are totaly
tree covered. One or two steps after the shot is sometimes all thats necessary for you to lose the animal from your sight. If it runs off any distance
before stopping again its even worse. Without a spotter watching and keeping things sorted out you could be in plain words, screwed.
The type of equiptment you use to shoot with can also play a large roll in helping stay on target following a shot, and might allow for using higher power with less field.
Practice by picking a small rock in a small opening between trees. See if you can stay on following the shot and how hard it is to find it again.
The rifle that the scope is going on is my primary hunting rifle. What I am wanting to do is have a dual purpose rifle that I can take to the range and shoot 1000+ yards with and can also take to the field and harvest game with. I have heard nothing but good about vortex, especially their warranty which is one of the main reasons that I have been leaning heavily towards their line of scopes. I know that I'll have the peace of mind that if something happens to the scope I can have it fixed or replaced for no questions asked. I would really hate to spend close to $1000 for a piece of gear and have little or no support after the purchase. One thing that I did want to ask was about the glass difference between the 4-16 vs the 6-24. I have read that the 6-24 has better quality glass than the 4-16? Any first hand experience with the two?
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