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    A Hamburger from Germany with two 12ers


    Hello everybody,
    I am a 49 years old Savage-shooter from Hamburg / Germany. I´m into shooting for more then 20 years, and got 2 savage rifles: A 12 LRPV in .223 Rem and 12 Benchrest in 308.

    The 223 I do have now for about 2 years, and I am - more or less - happy with it; I am still looking for the "perfekt" ammo...
    Up to now I do use Hornady match BTHP in 52 grains or the S&B 52 grain, with the Sierra-Match-King Hollow-Point-Boat-Tail bullet.
    Both of that ammos did not bring the results I expected. On good days (and a good package) , I shoot groups below 0,8 inches on 100 yards, on not-that-good-days, the groups spread up to 2 inches on 100 yards... I am still not sure, if I do something wrong with the choice of ammo...
    Any ideas what I can make better, to minimize the groups....?????

    The 308 I do have for about half a year, and I am also "half-happy" with it. To eliminate problems with the stock, I´d let a gun smith made a pillar beddig on this rife some months ago. A week ago I think, I maybe found a good working ammo for this rifle: The Hornady A-Max in 168 grain. I shot from distance of 330 yard 2 groups of 3,15 inches. I hope, I will get better with that rifle, I shoot groups below 2 Inches on that distance...
    Any Ideas that could help with that..??

    Up to now, I only can buy ammo in the shop, because I don´t have the permission to produce / build own Ammo. Therfore I need to make a special and official authorized course, that last 3 days, and cost about 300 bucks...

    I hope to find here some helpful informations and tips, to improve my shooting with my savages.
    Sorry for my bad english

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    Welcome. I think your on the right path with 168gr bullets on a 330 yard range.

    Finding the right ammo is the tough part. 1/2 to 3/4 moa is likely as good as it gets. With 3/4 a good average. That is what we get from 165gr SP @2650 FPS factory hunting ammo.

    The FGMM 168gr didn't do any better often more like 1" to 1 1/4".

    Good luck!

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    Thanks erverybody for your friendly welcome.
    I´ll see, if I find here some helpfull informations to improve my shooting.
    Up to now, my biggest problem ist to translate / understand all the shortcuts. I have no idea, what "FGMM" means...
    And yesterday I´ve read something about the torque, the stock-screws are tighten with. The unit therefore war in inch/kilos... It took me half an hour google-work, to translate that into metric measurements...
    But I got an american rifle, so I have to learn that !

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    "FGMM" means:
    Federal Gold Medal Match
    One of the more consistent factory ammunitions available here.

    Besides torque tuning I would check if your gunsmith floated the tang when bedding. (The area below the safety).

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    Welcome!
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    Guess it doesn't really matter. If ya cant afford $15, you won't be buying much anyways

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    Herzlich Willkommen!

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    Aus der Steiermark (Austria) auch ein Servus!

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    Ich war sieben Monate in Hamburg und auch sieben Monate in Graz. Die Welt ist doch klein! Servus und Moin Moin!

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