Reply With QuoteIf your looking for accuracy and not necessarily top performance as per fps, id be looking hard at the 6/47 or the 6 mm dasher.
so ive been doing a lot of research on the different 6mms and am thinking about building one and have narrowed it down to 3 and am looking for some input from you guys shooting them.
6XLR...from what ive read and seen in person the 6XLR seems like the one to go with...one of the match directors shoots the 6XLR at our matches and from what he has said and from what ive read the 6XLR seems to have the the best barrel life of the 6mms and also seems to have the best ballistics as it can shoot the 115 class bullets over 3000FPS with no presue issues.
6mm creedmore...last match 2 ppl were shooting the 6CMs and they were pretty impressive in the wind...i think they were shooting heavy bergers at 2950FPS.
243AI...this is another cal ive seen at our matches that preforms VERY well but ive hear and read they are barrel burns when yoiu turn up the heat.
im leaning more toward the 6CM or the 243AI but would like to hear what you guys think as far as pros and cons of the 3...what bullet,brass,powder and primer combos your shooting...barrel life...and or what ever other advise you have about the 3.
If your looking for accuracy and not necessarily top performance as per fps, id be looking hard at the 6/47 or the 6 mm dasher.
Originally Posted by yobuck
the XLR and 6CM are both EXTREMELY accurate...here is a vid of the XLR against a 6.5CM out to 1700yds...Scotty is the match director i was referring to that shoots the XLR in our matches and chuck also shoots in our matches...scotty is in the top 3 99% of the time and chuck shoots in the top 5 99% of the time...i know the dasher is VERY accurate but IMHO falls short in the wind.
https://youtu.be/LNCl28ZS1Us
https://youtu.be/A8-I19XD9y4
Last edited by LongRange; 04-04-2015 at 05:15 PM.
Got to agree with yobuck. Those 2 calibers are the easiest on barrels and have accumulated the best records, not to mention they are the most efficient.
"As long as there's lead in the air....there's still hope.."
All bullets fall short on wind, but smaller ones more than big ones. The video was no doubt done on a good day. On a bad day there would have been no video.
The smallest group ever shot at 1000 yds with any gun any weight was shot with a 6 mm dasher. Lots of guys still shoot their 308 calibers on the bad days.
Well i guess i got some more research to do.
All cartridges are capable of extreme accuracy, so that is a selling point to someone who doesn't want to do their own load work.
Seems a wee odd that you would look at some real hotrod powder holders, then be concerned about barrel life. If you are interested, here is the PRS usage
http://precisionrifleblog.com/2014/1...-the-pros-use/
I'm a firm believer in the theory that if it bleeds, I can kill it.
Not really concerned about barrel life but at the same time I don't want something I have to rebarrel twice a year. And thanks for the link I've read that a few times.
After doing a little more research I'm just going to stick to the plane jane 260...the 6.5 does everything I need it to.
My 6x47 Lapua barrel finally gave up last season. When I mean gave up, it lost it's competitive edge, but still shoots 1/2 m.o.a. Half minute doesn't sound bad, but it's not good enough for the girls I dance with. I figured it up and I have burnt over 18 lbs. of H 4350 through this barrel. At 38 grs. a shot, well...you do the math, I consider it paid for.
"As long as there's lead in the air....there's still hope.."
My next build is going to be a 6x47. Factory formed Lapua brass, no neck turning, no fire forming, load and go!
3,330 rounds...give or take a few lol!!My 6x47 Lapua barrel finally gave up last season. When I mean gave up, it lost it's competitive edge, but still shoots 1/2 m.o.a. Half minute doesn't sound bad, but it's not good enough for the girls I dance with. I figured it up and I have burnt over 18 lbs. of H 4350 through this barrel. At 38 grs. a shot, well...you do the math, I consider it paid for.
That is impressive and about the same as a 6.5 if not over heated.
What barrel was this Fred?
Don't over look 6.5 X 55 or 6 X 55 options.
Dean
RUMs are like woman in Stiletto heals, you know they are going to put you in the poor house, but that has never stopped anyone from pursuing them.
My thoughts exactly and after hearing Fred's round count I may go 6x47 when the new 260 barrel goes south.
I'm slowly putting pieces together for it. I have some brass, bullets, small primers, and Whidden dies. Just need a barrel, and reamer.
My debate is between the 6 Creedmoor and 6x47 Lapua currently. I think the Creedmoor would be a little less expensive based on brass cost alone to get into and I can carry over load data from the 243 I'm currently running.
Are you doing your own chambering?
Im down to the same two choices...we have a match this saturday so ill ask the ppl shooting the 6CMs what they think about them....i like both as there isnt a bunch of extra work fire forming neck turning ect.
Seems like the Lapua chambering tend to get consistent ES/SD then the Creedmoor, but both like high pressure and the 105 Berger hybrid is the bullet of choice in either. At least with the guys I shoot with. Other than that both are placing well when driven by good shooters.
Yeah I do, I finally decided to fix my tail stock on my lathe so I need to finish that first.
6 Creedmoor, 6 Dasher, & 6BRX.
I love all of them, but my BRX come in first, the Dasher comes in second. I will have to state my BRX is on of my most accurate rifles I have ever owned. Then my 6.5x47L shooting 123 Scenars is very close to my BRX.
Hope I didn't confuse you, but pick one and stick with it. My mistake is having about 30 rifles now. Good advice from a well known shooter told me I should have stuck with one a long time ago and I would probably be at least in the 10 ring most of the time. Made since.
Problem for me is running the BR and dasher variants they are known for issues when fed from AICS mags and therefore the reason most guys that compete at high level tactical matches are shooting either 6Creedmoor, 6x47L, or 6XC. If not one of those a 6.5 variant or the old reliable 243, 260, and some still running 308's here and there.
That is what pushed me to the 6x47 and 6xc was the AICS mag compatibility. I'm going with the x47 as I will build a 6.5x47 one day also. Also the factory no prep brass, I hardly have enough time to load and shoot let alone mess with fire forming.... And custom brass prep.
I don't think Lapua does 6x47L factory brass, but one pass will neck down the 6.5x47L brass. You can get straight factory 6 Creed brass though.
I use 6.5x47L and neck them down. Lube well and I have not had any problems.
While there is a difference in brass cost, I will easily pay the $25 per hundred to get Lapua over Hornady. Nosler custom for the Creed is $70 per 50 at Midway.
^^^^^^
I have had several 6mm's and the one that I love most is my 6x47 Lapua. I lube the brass, run it through the dies adding some RL-17 and a 105 Amax, then go shoot tiny groups. That simple. I truly have a stack of these.
Last edited by Jamie; 04-09-2015 at 06:54 AM.
More shooting, less typing.
100 Lapua brass will out last the barrel. Do the math, it's the best bang for the buck.
"As long as there's lead in the air....there's still hope.."
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