I know people that curse them. I like them. If you anneal and don't put to much pressure on the neck you can get some consistent neck tension. Press to hard and get strirations. I had federal brass split from that. There are other issues but the case head space doesn't change when you use them. I give them a thumbs up. i cant complain about my Redding Competition dies, But I have 290 plus or minus in each set of those.
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