I took this busted up 8 pt last year with the .260rem at 150yds with a 123gr Amax handload. This year I got my biggest buck to date with this 10pt. He also fell to the 123gr Amax handload. The 8 ran 30yds after being hit high in the lungs and the 10 dropped dead in his tracks after hitting him in the neck, head on at 80 yds.