Reply With Quotelooks like it is too simple for you guys to answer...
so i guess.....
the barrel for savage 11/111 .300 series , if I want to convert my 300 WIN MAG to any other, (300 WSM, 30-06, 308.... ) I need a new barrel ??!!
I have a new version of Savage 111 trophy Hunter with Accutrigger .300 Win Mag
want to know what is the options I could convert to;
I am new and do not know too much now and I want this information ASAP...
I know since most of savage parts are exchange able and that .308 / 30-06 / 300 Win Mag / 300 WSM are acuatlly same in diameter,......which means the barrel diameter are the same...
so... ....silly question, for savage 11/111 in theses calibers , .308 / 30-06 / 300 Win Mag / 300 WSM , are their barrel the same and exchange able ?
or if I change to one of these , I do not need a new barrel ??
I would like to go to 300WSM if possible, what parts I need ?
or if I go to 308 / 30-06, what parts I need ?
Thanks!!!!!
looks like it is too simple for you guys to answer...
so i guess.....
the barrel for savage 11/111 .300 series , if I want to convert my 300 WIN MAG to any other, (300 WSM, 30-06, 308.... ) I need a new barrel ??!!
Yes...even though they shoot the same bullet they have different chambers which are part of the barrel. So to change caliber...for example from 300 win mag to 3006 you will need a new barrel. There is more as well. Your 300 win mag 110 long action can actually be changed into ANY long action caliber with the barrel swap. there is one small problem though, the bolt face. Your current bolt face will work with other magnum calibers, such as a 7mm rem mag, so you could simply do a barrel swap to that BUT if you wanted to go to a non magnum caliber such as a 3006, you would need to buy the barrel, plus a new bolt face for standard calibers and not magnum.Originally Posted by dukecrab
A .30 caliber barrel will be chambered differently depending upon the cartridge it is designed for. When building a barrel, the smith first gets a barrel with a specific caliber, s.a. .30, or .22 then reams the breech end of the barrel to match the cartridge, s.a. .308 or 30-06 or 300 Win Mag. (all te same CALIBER, but difeferent CARTRIDGE. The internal dimensions of the chamber must be identical to the outside dimensions of the cartridge. Once the barrel's chamber and bore match the cartridge, it can be mounted to the action. The action's bolt face is the part of the bolt that holds the cartridge and allows the bolt to place the cartridge into the chamber and remove the empty case after firing. The bolt face must also match the dimensions of that particular cartridge. Many, different cartridges use the same bolt face because the base of the cartridge is the same. For example, the .308, 30-06, 25-06 and .260 (and others) all use the same bolt face even though they may be different calibers. However, the base of the .223 cartridge is smaller and therefore uses a different bolt face. So... it is important to understand what characteristics distinguishes one cartridge from another when choosing parts for a rifle. also, some cartridges require long actions, and some can be used with long or short actions. Perhaps before proceeding with your build you would benefit from doing some basic research on these fundamental and universal principles. If you do, I think you will have a much easier time going forward. :)
Also, a good place to start would be to become a Paid Member ($15 per year) and have access to great articles and FAQ's and technical "stuff" as well as the member's classified section/ For example, somewhere there is a "What Fit's" list that serves as a quick reference chart for what various cartridges require for bolt faces, etc. Very useful, but the info must be interpreted in its proper context.
Last edited by foxx; 09-09-2014 at 01:21 PM.
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XX (i.e Savage 10 or 11) is a short action while the XXX (Savage 110 or 111) is a long action. Maybe this will help (extract of bolt face diameter's courtesy of JE Customs)
Short actions with a bolt face .Dia of .470 +/-
225 Winchester, 22/250 Remingtion, 6mm Norma BR, 243 Win, 250 Savage, 260 Rem,
6.5/284 Norma, 7/08 Rem, 284 win, 300 Savage, 308 Win, 338 Federal, 35 Rem, and
the 358 Winchester.
Short actions with a bolt face .Dia of .540+/-
223 WSSM, 243 WSSM, 25 WSSM, 7mm Rem saum, 7mm WSM, 300 Rem saum, 300
WSM, 325 WSM, and the 350 Rem Mag.
Long actions with a bolt face .DIA of .470 +/-
220 Swift, 6mm Rem, 240 Weatherby Mag, 257 Roberts, 25-06 Rem,
6.5x55 Swedish, 270 Win, 7x57 Mauser, 7x64 Brenneke, 280 Rem, 30/06 Springfield,
8mm Mauser, 338/06 A Square, and the 35 Whelen.
Long actions with a bolt face .Dia of .540 +/-
257 Weatherby, 264 Win Mag, 270 weatherby Mag, 7mm Rem Mag, 7mm Weatherby Mag, 7 STW,
7mm Rem Ultra Mag, 300 H & H, 300 Win Mag, 300 Weatherby Mag, 300 RUM, 303 Brit,
8mm Rem Mag, 338 Win Mag, 340 Weatherby Mag, 338 RUM, 375 H & H, 375 Weatherby,
375 RUM, 416 Rem Mag, 458 Win Mag, and the 458 Lott.
Great explanation FEENIX. This caliber list is cool. have not seen it before!
Thanks FEENIX, I just added this to my savage info file.. Good explanation. Blitz
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