1906 model 1914 22 pump

[BOBB]

I'm taking my grandfathers 1914 all the way down to get it Re-Blued.

I cant figure how to remove the front and rear sights (after the screws are out) from the
octagon barrel.

also
The Cartridge carrier in the breach doesn't seem to want to come out. I can rotate it
but cant pull it our from the breach side.

Any help.
Thank you

[Sav22]

First, why do you want to re-blue it? IMO it will take away all the character it has and all the history. A lot of the marks & wear on it were put there by your grandfather as if he were writing you a story - you will be erasing that story and any sign that your grandfather ever even touched it. I think you are making a mistake by refinishing it - it won't shoot any better and instead of looking like a family heirloom it will look like it just came off the gun rack at WallMart.

If you are set on re-finishing it the sights have to be driven out of the dovetail from left to right and put back right to left. The screws in the rear sight have nothing to do with mounting it - the rear one adjusts the elevation and the front is for windage adjustment. The lifer/carrier is held by a sleeve that has to be driven out.

[Mad Dog]

If it was made in 1906 then I'd guess it was a model 1903 as the 1914's weren't even being made yet, that's how they got the name model 1914.

[Indigo22]

Oh, but that would make it that much more rare..... Have someone look it over. It may ruin more than the sentimental value of it to have it re finished. Bringing it back to original condition will actually ruin any collectiblity it may have in its current condition. Some collectors will not touch a gun that has been redone.

[Sav22]

If it was made in 1906 then I'd guess it was a model 1903 as the 1914's weren't even being made yet, that's how they got the name model 1914.

MD, I thought the same as you at first but he mentions a part that sounds like a lifter - so = 1914. The 1914 was based on the 1903 and all have the Dec. 25, 1906 patent date on the barrels, that is where the 1906 date comes from, it's also where the 'Model 1906' Savage reference keeps coming from when there was no Model 1906.

[Mad Dog]

Ahhh, that explains a lot on why I keep finding guns listed at auctions as being a model 1906 and they turn out to be 1903's.

The 1914 is the only pump Savage I'm missing.

[BOBB]

Ahhh, that explains a lot on why I keep finding guns listed at auctions as being a model 1906 and they turn out to be 1903's.

The 1914 is the only pump Savage I'm missing.

I decided, based on all the comments to not get the 1914 blued.

this gun has on the top of the bbl in front of the back site
"patented December 26 1906 others pending"
then on top of the bbl in back of the back site it has "MODEL 1914" 22 S L & LR

THE SERIAL # ON ALL LOCATIONS IS 10042

[Sav22]

BOBB, I think you made the right decision. That gun, with wear and marks on it, will be the kind that get's the comment "oh the stories that could tell!"

The serial number and barrel stamped make it a pre-WWI gun so it's pushing 100 years old. The patent date is actually December 25, 1906 and that is the patent for the 1903 clip-magazine fed pump; much of the 1914 tube fed is the same and was still covered by that early patent. Later 1914's will have two additional patents on them that cover the changes for the tube magazine - those are the patents that were 'pending'. The Model 25, that replaced the 1914, is stamped with the same patents as the 1914 because it was basically just an improvement and not a new design.

[BOBB]

thanks Sav22

im looking for a new brass tube for the inner magazine tube. I'v tried all known internet resources but no one has it.
it is about 18 1/2" long. would any savage .22 brass tube work if it is at least 18 1/2" long?

[Sav22]

Bobb, Look at the thread titled '1914 Magazines'.