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Thread: H335 data discrepency

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    H335 data discrepency


    After doing various research, I've pretty much decided to go with H335 for my new #10 .223. It was a tossup between this and H4895, but I really like the way the ball powders meter.

    Factory website data shows a max load of 25.3 = 3203fps = 49,300 cup
    My old Speer manual shows a max of 27.0 = 3193, (no pressure data)
    That's a huge difference in charge weight to get the same velocity. Speer manual uses a Mini14, 18.5" barrel @1:10 twist.
    Barrel info is not given on the Hodgdon Data Center website.

    I hate when we get conflicting data, and being new to this powder, I thought I'd ask you guys.
    Intended bullet is 55gr.

    I'd appreciate any comments from someone using H335.
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    jlcpls
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    Re: H335 data discrepency

    get a third source.

    Err on the side of current data, as recipes may have changed

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    stevec
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    Re: H335 data discrepency

    I have 6 or more manuals and data is never the same. I would start on the low end and work up in small steps. One rifle may not have any pressure signs when another may.

    Steve

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    johndoe3
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    Re: H335 data discrepency

    2009 printed Hodgdon Reloading Guide shows:

    223 Remington
    case: Winchester
    twist 1:12
    barrel: 24"
    trim: 1.750"
    primer: Winchester SR
    COL: 2.200"

    H335 Start: 23.0gr 3018fps 40,800cup
    H335 max load: 25.3gr 3202fps 49,300cup

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    Re: H335 data discrepency

    I load H-335 in my .222 Remington 700. When I went "by the book" My loads did not achieve stated velocity. In fact I had one blow up on a fox that gutted it. Poor thing was dragging its guts through the snow until I put another in it to finish the job.
    I called Sierra about bullet performance and the rep said that the bullet was moving too slow. He said use a chronograph when developing a load.
    Well I did and , low and behold, I increased the load by 1.5 grains without ANY pressure signs and got 3200fps. (Optimal velocity for the bullet)
    So 25.5 g H-335 in my .222 pushing a 52 grain bullet. 10 shots into a dime at 100yds. I feel confidant making any shot on a fox or songdog. I ALWAYS chronograph loads now...another indespensible reloading tool.
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    Re: H335 data discrepency

    REMEMBER, WHEN THE POWDER MANUFACTURE MAKE A FORMULA CHANGE TO THERE PRODUCT THEY DO NOT SEND OUT BULLETINS.
    IF AN OLD BOOK AND A NEW BOOK DISAGREE IT MAY NOT BE A PRINT ERROR.
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    dcloco
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    Re: H335 data discrepency

    or...they changed the chemicals/properties of the powder.

    I have some OLD H4895...have to work up to the load on this. I use OLD manuals for reference. This powder REALLY shoots good though.

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    Re: H335 data discrepency

    Also remember that Hodgdon doesn't make there own powder anyway.
    Have had some WILD descrepencies with BL-C(2)
    I'm a firm believer in the theory that if it bleeds, I can kill it.

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