What is the difference between a 10,12,14,16?

**Szumi** · 10-31-2013, 05:20 PM

I'm planning to build a hunter class silhouette rifle in 7-08 in the next year. I really like my 10 FCP in 308 so I'm all up for adding another Savage to the collection.

What I can't figure out is what the difference is between the 10, 12, 14, and 16. I know they are short actions because long actions have a three digit number beginning with 1.

Sorry if I missed a FAQ or sticky. I did look.

Thanks,

Szumi

stangfish · 10-31-2013, 05:57 PM

Mechanicaly nothing. There are some variations so a few better questions to ask when looking for aftermarket or replacement parts are; what type of trigger? What type of feed(action screw spacing and magazine is relevent)? What type of bolt release/trigger guard top or bottom release. That probably raises a few more questions if your not familiar with savages. To make matters worse, we are noticing that Center Feed DBM's are seeing some changes lately as well. The 16 series is stainless. the 14 series can be either SS or CS.

**bootsmcguire** · 10-31-2013, 11:41 PM

Just to add to what stangfish has said, here is a basic summary of identifying a Savage:

Short Actions are 2-digit numbers, Long Actions are 3 Digit Numbers

10/110 - Old Designation Sporter Series, Current Designation Law Enforcement Series
11/111 - Current Designation Sporter Series
12/112 - Varmint Series (Some models available in Stainless)
14/114 - Classic Series (High Luster Blue sometimes also SS, High Grade Wood Stocks)
16/116 - Weather Warrior Series (SS, Synthetic, Sporter & Mag Contoured Barrels)
Target Action Guns ( 12 F/TR, 12 F-Class, 12 Palma, Etc.)
Mod. 25 & 40 - Light Vamint Series
Axis - Entry Level Sporter with DBM (all the same action length, but different from 10/110 to 16/116 series')
Stevens 200 - Same as 11/111 except no Accutrigger (old style side bolt release only)

10/110, 11/111, 12/112, 14,114, 16/116 Series' Action Lengths:
Short Action: Staggerfeed Mag = 4.27" screw spacing,
Centerfeed Mag = 4.40" screw spacing
Intermediate Action: Staggerfeed Mag, 4.522" screw spacing, often called "J Series"
Long Action: Staggerfeed Mag = 5.062" screw spacing
Centerfeed Mag = 5.062" screw spacing
PTA action: Same size as Short action, has 3 action screws, 3.44" or 4.40" spacing

Shank size is normally the small/standard shank (1.055"-20TPI) unless it is a PTA based action or chambered for a WSM, SAUM, RUM, or H&H based caliber. These are the Large Shank (1.125"-20TPI). However there are exceptions depending on age of the gun as early WSMs were Small Shank. 99% of the time the above applies but best to measure to know for sure.

The Axis, 25, and 40 all have different action types then the rest and as such parts are generally not compatible, except Axis barrels are compatable with standard shank Savage. Axis Triggers can be modified to work with the Accu-trigger and there are now aftermarket choices.

AK - Adjustable Muzzle Brake
B - Laminate Stock
BT - Laminated Thumbhole Stock
C - Clip (Detachable Box Magazine)
F - Synthetic Stock
G - Hardwood Stock
H - Hinged Floorplate
K - Non-adjustable Muzzle Brake
L - Left Hand
ML - Muzzleloader
NS - No Sights
P - Police
SS - Stainless Steel
SR - Supressor Ready (Threaded Muzzle)
T - (Rimfire) Peep Sights
V - Long-Range (Heavy Barrel)
XP - Package Gun
Y - Youth

Now on the 10 thru 116 guns, most the newer guns are going to the bottom bolt release and have centerfeed magazines. The older ones have the side release and were made with centerfeed magazines and Staggerfeed magazines (older and no longer made). However there are certain new models that still retain the side bolt release (example: The Hog Hunter series).

stangfish · 11-01-2013, 12:03 AM

Good stuff. I guess I should have put all that together as many times as jim and you have put that up. Nice job

**bootsmcguire** · 11-01-2013, 12:27 AM

Originally Posted by stangfish

Good stuff. I guess I should have put all that together as many times as jim and you have put that up. Nice job

Yup I just copied the letter designations from Savage site and wrote the rest in, adding a little more each time it seems when new changes keep popping up with newer versions and models. Seems to answer most of the basic questions all in one swoop.

pitsnipe · 11-01-2013, 09:20 AM

Might I add the (not currently in the line up above) "K" is for the non adjustable break. My FLCP-K for example.

Snipe

**bythebook** · 11-01-2013, 09:30 AM

K is for adjustable brake I think,at least my Son's FCP--K has an adjustable brake .

pitsnipe · 11-01-2013, 10:47 AM

Originally Posted by bythebook

K is for adjustable brake I think,at least my Son's FCP--K has an adjustable brake .

BTB,

Well, knowing Savage they might have changed that in the last year. Mine, as it looks on their site and catalog, comes threaded, with a fixed break on it. Was just trying to get all of the alphabet soup in there. Might be futile when it is changed so much. But still LOVE my savage!

Snipe

stangfish · 11-01-2013, 10:53 AM

What caliber has the adjustable break? I have only seen them with non adjustable brakes.

**pdog06** · 11-01-2013, 10:19 PM

usually just some of the 7mag and 300WM. Some 308's. Also some Striker barrels had them.

**pdog06** · 11-01-2013, 10:38 PM

Just an FYI ,
I just took the post that Boots has above with all the info and made it a Sticky in the Centerfire section. I added a couple things to it as well. It will make it easier to find later on, and hopefully allow someone to find the info.

**bootsmcguire** · 11-01-2013, 10:56 PM

Originally Posted by pdog06

Just an FYI ,
I just took the post that Boots has above with all the info and made it a Sticky in the Centerfire section. I added a couple things to it as well. It will make it easier to find later on, and hopefully allow someone to find the info.

I just saw the sticky and was about to PM you to see if you did that. Thanks, hopefully it will help a few people and perhaps save a few repeat posts.