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    S1CKNASTY
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    Misfiring with savage 12 lrp .260


    Broke in my rifle yesterday for the first time and it's already misfiring. I haven't messed with anything on the rifle. I have shot federal fusion 120 grain and federal 140 grain and both had multiple misfires. I'm planning on trying another brand before I flip **** but I just wondering if anybody has had or heard of the same problem.

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    I am going to paste the same info from your other post. The mods can delete the other one since this is the right place.
    Nice rifle. By missfiring I am thinking failure to fire. Can you take pictures of the primer end of the rounds that did not fire. We can do some CSI on the primers. Being a new rifle it might be a good idea to contact savage but there are some things to look at. you might be able to fix some of them. Just for starters pull the trigger all of the way back, push the bolt release down. It should be smooth till it stops. Next, dry fire the rifle (unloaded). The sound you here should be a clear "Whack". Not an enemic sound. This is the firing pin going home. It needs speed. If it is not hitting hard, you may want to try and lubricate the internals of the bolt. Hopefully some others will chime in with more simple things to consider but for me those two stand out at the moment.

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    Correct the rifle is failing to fire quite often. The firing pin sounds fine and the bolt release is doing as you said. Here's a pic of a couple rounds I fired today obviously the 3 where the primers aren't punched in didn't fire.

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    For it to not strike "some" of the primers at all is something that has to be attended to by Savage. If it were mine?...Id want to take it apart and see what the culprit is.
    Seeing as how its new?.......send it back...what a bummer.........
    Man-oh-man....thats the rig Im looking into...its got the fluted barrel and the stock I want as well. Is that a 24" barrel 1-8twist?
    Id love to have it just as your but with a muzzle brk.
    Nice rifle...sorry about the malfunction
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    I have to agree with Elpaso eddie. Give them a call. The will make it right if it is a new rfle.

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    Have you adjusted the trigger ? I have had my trigger adjustment screw come loose and fail to fire. Or are you making sure your coming strait back on the blade on the trigger?

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    thats an HS stock isnt?
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    If this is your first accutrigger, you may not be depressing the safety lever blade before pressing the trigger. Will sound like it released firing pin, but trigger is blocked. This can be done by touching side of trigger & not touching lever.

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    LOL ...I never gave that a thought but we did have the fellow who complained all day long that the trigger was flawed because he liked to fire his rifle by pushing on the side of the trigger. Need to verify that. Yes eddie it is an H-S Precision.

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    Quote Originally Posted by short round View Post
    If this is your first accutrigger, you may not be depressing the safety lever blade before pressing the trigger. Will sound like it released firing pin, but trigger is blocked. This can be done by touching side of trigger & not touching lever.
    interesting........
    so...... what your saying is that your trigger finger has to be placed as "flat" as possible on the safety blade while pulling on trig mechanisim?
    Is this common of target trigs?
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    I'm going buy some other rounds and see if for some reason the federal ammo just wasn't working well. If that doesn't work I plan on sending it back to savage. I'm not looking forward to that long process. Here's a link to savage arms with the rifle I got. Hopefully that will answer all your questions about it. It's bone stock out of the box minus the bells and whistles I added. I haven't adjusted anything on the rifle including the trigger. I will say when it does fire, it fires like a champ. These pix are from shooting today at 100 yards. I was shooting a little high at first but got pretty on point once I brought the scope down. Just gotta work on my breathing a little to stop moving left and right. Also thanks for the input, I really appreciate it

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    thats settles it......HS stock...fluted......260 Savage?
    Im hearing christmas bells ringing with Santa saying ho-ho-ho.........here ya go Eddie....got this Savage just for you.....ololololo
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    Ya its a 260. My first bolt action rifle. I'm pretty happy with it WHEN it fires

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    Quote Originally Posted by S1CKNASTY View Post
    Ya its a 260. My first bolt action rifle. I'm pretty happy with it WHEN it fires
    On the accutrigger you need to come strait back with the blade before pressing the trigger. If your putting side force on the blade or getting the trigger before the blade it can fail to fire.

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    This is caused by one of three things....

    Short ammo and/or loose headspace
    AccuTrigger adjusted too low
    Side loading the AccuTrigger.

    Since some rounds are firing fine and others are not I'm going to rule out a headspace issue. Personally I think it's an operator issue in that you are side loading the trigger on some shots and causing it to trip and engage the sear safety which blocks the sear from dropping and releasing the firing pin.

    Pay attention to that on your next trip to the range and see if that doesn't resolve the problem. If not, try adjusting the pull weight up a little on the trigger just to rule that one out as well before sending it back to Savage.
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    I'm not sure what the pull weight is exactly but i know it's very light. I'll check to make sure I'm pulling it correctly next time. I'll let you know how it goes.

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    I'm really hoping it's just me being a tard and not pulling the trigger correctly. This is my first accu trigger so it could be that.

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    the same thing happened to my uncle when i wanted to have him try my model 12 fvss. the accutrigger was set very low. i shot it myself without any issue over 200 shot, but for him it didn't shoot. he tried the same cartridge 7-8 times . i knew it was not an ammo issue since the primer wasn't punched. i picked the rifle
    and with the same cartridge it fired right away.
    i then turned the trigger adjustment screw 1 turn and he tried again, and it worked perfectly after that.
    his way of pulling the trigger wasn't right

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    I can make mine "act" up by purposely placing my trig. finger at a 45dg angle. Ive taken mine apart just have a better understanding of the mechanism itself. the safety system works as it should but has some hick-ups.IMHO.... I believe tighter tolerances on moving parts of the system would defently help.
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    I purchased a Mdfl 10 FLCP-K Accutrigger last year. The two stage ("accublade" #1 and the trigger #2) trigger has made me a much better shot. My trigger pull MUST be straight back and level in order to prevent an Accutrigger sear trip. And mine isn't the target Accutrigger that you have. So yours is that much more sensitive to a "proper" trigger pull. I believe these fine gentlemen have you on the right track. And you'll be punching .5 groups at 200 yards and sending pics of the target to poor eddie (who has to wait for Christmas) and rubbin it in.
    Good Luck and
    Good Shootin!

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    awe man!........pitsnipe!...lololololololo

    As a matter a fact.....I went to see my local FFL friend today and gave him the go ahead on my order.... Model 10 FCP-K. YEAH-BABY!
    In the mean time.....Ill just keep shooting my Model 10 Mil Spec. 5R 24" 11.25 twist.
    Makes the waiting much easier......I hope
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    eddie,


    You'll LOVE it. The 10 twist will open up doors to looooong, sleeeek, (180 to 200 grain Bergers) pills that impress the 300 WM and 338 Lapua gang at the 1000 to 1200 yard course. Dope is everything. But doable.
    Back to the show.

    Snipe

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    I hear that.... The write ups on the K model are great.
    Im already sending simple 150gr smk out to 1K easily with my other rig.
    Do I need another Savage.....no..........do I want one???....HELL YES!!!!
    Ive got a stock pile of 168/175 smk I had for my gas guns but seeng as how Im not runnning rds thru it any more, I need another 308 to load for lololololololol
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    I really want some 155 SMK Palma to launch out to 1k. I have like 900 175 pulls left, but want to see if I can get some more performance with the 155.

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    Those 175 SMK's are GOLD in these darn hills with the "f" shooters now. And like GOLD.........as hard to find. Nice stash you two have there.
    Back to the ranch.
    Snipe

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