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    bedding with jb weld

    Couple quick questions..can it be done with just any jb weeks such as something i could grab from home depot? And does kiwi natural shoe polish with as a release agent with it? I'm trying to avoid having to order from online.
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    You would be better off buying a kit that is designed for rifle bedding.

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    gray JB weld will work fine, shoe polish dont know about as have never used it but it should work,i use a spray release agent good luck you can do it

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    Quote Originally Posted by jordan View Post
    Couple quick questions..can it be done with just any jb weeks such as something i could grab from home depot? And does kiwi natural shoe polish with as a release agent with it? I'm trying to avoid having to order from online.

    Yes, the JB and Kiwi will work just fine. Personally I use both Devcon Plastic steel and aluminum F/F2 depending on the job and Kiwi or Johnson's Paste wax for release.

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    I have used the jb weld and kiwi shoe polish in 3 stocks and so far is working fine. Let it sit for about 20 to 30 min after mixing it so it will be more of a peanut butter consistency. Do not use the 5 minute neither, it is just too fast for the process. Good luck.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LoneWolf View Post
    You would be better off buying a kit that I'd designed for rifle bedding.

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    id like to know more about that kit...
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    Quote Originally Posted by jhelmuth View Post
    id like to know more about that kit...
    Typo met "is/was developed for glass bedding."

    Look up match grade bedding compound.

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    Like Nandy said is good advice. It is too runny right after it's mixed. I've done over 5 rifles with JB weld and all work fine. Cheap, easy, no problem filling in voids if you have one. Definitely recommend for the first time job to see what your up against. I used a Johnson paste wax also. The first time is the worst. Very nerve racking but pay attention to what your doing and I bet you'll be surprised how good it turns out. If you have a void or two fill them in and put it back together until it sets up. If the edges are a little rough just file or dremel them as smooth as you can live with. Good luck.

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    Thanks guys. I will give it a shot! Sorry for all the typos. I was sending it from my phone from work and didn't realize it auto corrected... Just to be clear though... How exactly do i use the shoe polish? Also i drilled out the action screw holes for pillars but they just barely fit. As in i have to pound them in with a mallet.. How do i widen those holes just enough to fit epoxy around it?

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    The process on how to bed a stock been cover many times. You might want to use the search button. There is this article which is where I based my process on: http://www.6mmbr.com/pillarbedding.html
    It is very good.

    To answer your questions, The shoe polish is your release agent and works together with the tape and playdoh (plumber putty is preferred by others) creating a very thin film that will allow you to remove the action from the stock and keep the bedding material from being pretty much mechanically bonded to your action. At the same time it is so thin that it does create a very close female mold of your action which is what you are looking for. You apply it to the action and buffer it. Tape is applied to another areas like the recoil lug. Playdoh or any other putty like material will cover orifices such as magazine wells, trigger group area and such.
    Yes, you do have to make a hole large enough so the pillars can come in and out freely and the bedding material can flow. You might have to add a second "hand" of bedding material from the bottom of the stock for the pillars to be bedded properly. The holes in my boys stocks are little over 1/4 inch. I did my first bedding with a 3/8 hole because I was affraid to hit the reinforcement bar these stocks have. The holes were very tight for the jb weld to flow easily so I had to wait for the jb weld to be hard enough so I could rotate the stock and apply a second batch of jb weld and even as runny as it was it was a little more work than I wanted to do. Last boyd stock I did a 1/2 inch hole and that was a lot easier. I still had to do a second batch but it went a lot easier...

    Read that article, it is really good and will give you a good idea on what are you after. Make sure you apply the release agent/tape/putty to all parts, not just what you think will get bedding compound in it.
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    I understand the concept, I just didn't know how exactly the shoe polish in particular should be applied. light or heavy, buffed or "gooped"... etc. haven't seen specific instructions for the use. tends to just be: "apply as release agent".

    I know I have to widen the holes just wasn't sure about the easiest way to do so. I have half inch holes with half inch pillars. Without simply jumping up to a 5/8 drill bit and re-drilling the holes that is.
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    Just be sure to put the shoe polish on evenly and cover everything. Good Luck :) ......Jim

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    You have to realize I dont know you level of skills and the questions were very basic so I guess I got the wrong impression. I will let someone else answer your questions in the spirit of not telling you more stuff that you already know.
    Good luck.
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    I apply shoe polish thin and evenly and then buff it to a high polish. That makes it very thin, to achieve the best fit of the metal to the bedding compound.
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