Interested in hearing your experiences with the Model 111 hunter in 30.06

[Russ 111]

Hi all,
I am a new owner of a Savage 111 hunter in 30.06 I am interesed in hearing your experiences with the rifle? What can I expect in servicability, durablilty and useability in various weather conditions and temps. Also I plan on replacing the scope with a better one, any recommendations?

[keith1]

Russ,
I have a Model 111 but chambered in 25/06. I got it in December and have put around 100 rounds through it. My rifle is doing very well and I really like it. It's accurate but not exceptionaly so. I have only shot 2 groups and one was 5/8 inch and the other 7/8 I think. I am not a group shooter, the rifle has been carried on my daily walks and shot just at randum targets.Right now the rifle has a 3-9 power Bushnell but when I get around to it there is going to be one of those 10 power Super Sniper scopes mounted on it.

Regards, Keith

[rattfink]

You have got to love a world where factory rifles are not exceptionally accurate at 5/8 group

[keith1]

Rat,
I have a Remington 30/06 that will do .3 inches any day .

Regards, Keith

[Russ 111]

Keith, and Rat thanks for your replies. I was told by the salesman, a guy I know, the savage is every bit as accuarate as the Rem 700, if not more so. I took it out yesterday just to see how it shoots. I was not at a place where I could make a serious attempt at zeroing it in, but wanted to learn it characteristics. I shot three round,s Remmington 150 gr. 100 yds. Considering the rifle has only been bore-sighted I was pleased how it shot. All three rounds would have been a kill shot on a deer. The rifle itself is a very comfortable shooting rifle. the recoil, while noticable, was in no way discomfortable. Overall, just based on three shots, I really like the feel of it. I hope to go out in the next two weeks to zero it in. I will give a range report at that time.

[keith1]

Russ,
Hopefully you enjoy your rifle as much as I enjoy mine. My rifle is out of ammo almost, only 3-4 rounds left so got to bet busy and load some more. My rifle could maybe be more accurate than it is if I put in more time and MONEY in load developement. Actually the load that I am using is one that was developed for a screwed up Remington and it works fine in the Savage.

Regards, Keith

[rattfink]

Rat,
I have a Remington 30/06 that will do .3 inches any day .

Regards, Keith

That's awesome! I was only commenting on how much expectations for out of the box accuracy have changed. 10 years ago it seems a custom or high end factory rifle owner would happily brag about 1 MOA groups.

[keith1]

Rat,
That Remington will only shoot those small groups with 208 grain A-Max bullets and RL 22 powder. Other bullets are around 3/4-1 inch.

Regards, Keith

[Russ 111]

So what you guys are telling me is I cannot expect to thread the needle and put two bullets through the same hole? That's ok, if I did that I would pack up my gun, go to the casino and bet my entire life savings, because I would be living in the luckiest day of my life:)
I will be very satisified with a three inch group.

[keith1]

Russ,
Don't be happy with that. For sure most modern rifles and especially modern bullets are capible of much more than that. Believe in your Savage.

Regards, Keith
Semper Fi

[stangfish]

Russ,

What does it mean when you shoot a rifle for groups that has only been bore sighted?

[Russ 111]

when it has been bore sighted you go to the range, and using your scope place the reticles one the desired impact point. Fire three rounds to acheive, hopefully a tight group. You use that group to get an indication of where the scope is actually sighting. for example: if the group is two inches to the right and below the aim point, then you adjust the windage and elevation right and down two inches. After adjusting the sight, place the reticle on the desired impact point. Fire another three round group, and determine where the group is in relation to the desired impact point. When your group of three is in the desired impact point you have zeroed the scope and the rifle.