Reply With Quote6mm BR Norma or 6mm BR Remington ? The Norma has a COAL of 2.441 vs 2.20" for the Remington. That causes there to be quite a load difference between the two.
If so could you please tell me the starting loads and max loads
for the 6mmbr with the berger 95 grain VLD Target bullet..
Using Varget and Reloader 15 powders.....Thanks
6mm BR Norma or 6mm BR Remington ? The Norma has a COAL of 2.441 vs 2.20" for the Remington. That causes there to be quite a load difference between the two.
lapua 6mmbr norma---you have a book,I would appreciate the load data for both powders until my book gets here..Thank youOriginally Posted by Westcliffe01
For a 95gr, Varget runs 27.0 to 30.3gr (2534 to 2818fps)
RE 15 for a 95gr runs 27.5 to 30.6gr (2586 to 2859 fps)
Both of these listed for 2.441 COAL
Yeah--BUT, the SAAMI COAL may or may not be the limiting factor on your actual COL--If your 6 BR is anything like my Savage 6.5 284-- I can go way beyond the SAAMI COAL in the quest to get a bullet closer to lands (better to go by CBTO, I believe).
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A couple of things to note, all of Berger's load data is quickload data AFAIK so the min and max are on the very conservative side. Second if you email them they will typically email you an excel file with load data.
Really? You mean it's software projection as opposed to actual testfire?
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I am pretty sure... I will check my copy tonight.
I emailed and requested load data from them and they emailed me this:
Data for all grains are attached on the excel document. Tabs at the bottom will allow you to select the different grains.
Load data was generated using Quick Load a 24 inch barrel a COAL (cartridge over all length) of 2.800 inches and your COAL and velocity could be a little different.
AS WITH ALL RELOADING APPROACH THE MAXIMUM LOADS WITH CAUTION AS ALL RIFLES AND RELOADING TECHNIQUES WILL BE DIFFERENT. If YOU CHANGE ANY OF YOUR COMPONENTS; THIS INCLUDES DIFFERENT POWDER LOT NUMBERS; YOU MUST REFIGURE YOUR LOADS BY STARTING WITH THE MINIMUM LOAD.
If we can be of any additional help feel free to contact us.
Thanks for your interest and have a great day.
Walt Berger
Berger Bullets
Technical Advisor
When I received my copy of the manual it matches exactly.
Interesting--very interesting. My Berger first edition says it was a mix of both--it would be nice if they indicated which and where. I believe other manufacturers actually live test fire their bullets, no? I recently called sierra for some 6.5 284 data and they are actually in the process of revising their load manual/software--and the the guy I talked to was live firing for their data, AFAIK.
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Match shooters have been shooting Bergers for years, so I am pretty sure they have a long list of reload data from competitors.
Makes sense--if we were all firing match guns. : )
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I wrote to them several times asking for data for the 6br..Never gat any answers.
So I gave up and ordered the book..Midway sure is so at their shipping...Been about
2 weeks since I ordered it.Yes they said it was in stock...Oh well...
Westcliffe's data is spot on--anything else you wanted?
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Finally got my book today....I think it was well worth the 24 bucks...Seen one on e bay going for 45.00 bucks
whats up with that?
Glad you got the manual in John
Believe it or not I was just going to pm you with pics from the berger manual for the 95 and 105 gr
I am always a little late lol
Jack
It's the thought that counts, +1 for you : )
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Well,at least you were thinking of me,lol Love the barrel,seems to be doing a great job as long as I do my part..got a pretty good load for the sierra 107's as well...Also reloader-15....Shot it in one match already..Done pretty well with it...No one done real well,of course it was cold and windy....Gotta have some excuse..There is another on this Sunday..I plan on doing a lot better...Gotta get more loaded...Thanks again..John
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