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    I would like to see that too and I have done my part. I wrote an article for the Varmint Hunter a little over a year ago about my hunting success with the little .250 Savage and 115 grain Bergers. I went long on a 112" Coues deer at 662 yards and it worked great that deer didnt know what hit him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BillPa View Post
    Ya mean like these'ns?



    L-R 270-08, 270-08 Imp and the 270 Win. for comparison.


    BTW, this is my original load workup for the improved version.


    The duplicate bars (44-45) were due to different lots of powder.
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    Where does the 270 WSM fit in that picture?

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    The question should be why not a 257 Creedmoor or 277 Creedmoor? Though the 250 Savage and 257 Creedmoor are pretty darn close.
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    I've always had a soft spot in my heart for the .25 calibers, hence my screen name. I would love to have a win mag case like 7mm, 300, or 338 necked down to a .257 caliber bullet. It's a lot of powder for such a small bullet, but it sure would be a little zipper.

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    quarterbore, have you ever considered a 25cal bullet in a WSM?

    I am awaiting a 6mm WSM barrel now, and it should be a screamer. A 25cal on a WSM case would be one fast 257. Just a thought.
    204, 22 K-Hornet, 222, 223, 22-250, 22-250AI, 6BR, 243, 243AI, 6-06, 6-WSM, 250-3000AI, 270, 7-08, 7RM, 30BR, 308, 30-06, 375 H&H, 444 Marlin, 450BM, 458WM

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    Wasn't there a 25WSSM at one point?

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    Yea but it was basically just a short action 25-06. A 257 weatherby magnum is another story.

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    FYI a 257 Weatherby is exactly that a 300WinMag necked down to 257, 70gr Blitz Kings @ 4500FPS It's love at first flight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scope eye View Post
    FYI a 257 Weatherby is exactly that a 300WinMag necked down to 257, 70gr Blitz Kings @ 4500FPS It's love at first flight.

    Dean
    Looks like a 257 Weatherby is going onto my want list.

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    If someone started making high BC bullets in 257 and 277, do you think there's a market, I seem to think so.
    Not now but in time maybe. Very few barrels are twisted right. Most chambers aren't throated right. A bullet co. isn't going to tool up to make something nobody can use and gun companies aren't going to build guns for bullets nobody's making.

    I agree with JA though, Berger is pushing the envelope with .25's, in time maybe the other components of the system upgrade to match and incrementally the quarterbore may start to become a more viable long range/competition option. .277 probably has less of a chance because it's sandwiched in between the two giants, 7mm and 30 and since they're already in the higher recoil range (relative to competition shooting) there's not as much need to split hairs like there is with the smaller calibers.

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    I shot 500 yards last week at a 12"x12" steel plate, and was zeroed in at 100 yards, I only had to add 4 clicks to the scope, to compensate for bullet drop, Chesty for president was spotting for me he almost soiled himself, one guy asked me to go back and forth on the clicks so he could see for himself, he walked away shaking his head and never said a word, I love it, it makes my trip to the range meaningful, hey any load that you have more powder weight than bullet weight, is bound to be an awesome round, to duplicate this load it goes as follows,
    70gr Sierra Blitz King loaded up with 75gr of RL17, I had absolutely no signs of pressure not even a hint, Chesty saw me lift the bolt and even inspected the brass, and said WoW you can even go hotter, I said I usually run a full case but since I am far from home, I toned it down a little,
    he then proceeded to call me a derogatory term, Remember now duplicate at your own risk.

    Tanks Dean
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    What caliber was that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Apache View Post
    Yup exactly like that. Figured it had already been done, just hadn't seen it yet. Good Link.


    Quote Originally Posted by quaterbore View Post
    Wasn't there a 25WSSM at one point?
    Sure was. Like was said above, it gave 25-06 type performance in a shorter and fatter package.
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    Quote Originally Posted by quarterbore View Post
    What caliber was that?
    257 Weatherby

    Dean

    PS: you gotta admit there's something to, a little extra free bore.
    Last edited by scope eye; 04-12-2013 at 03:36 AM.
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    I remember I think sin man had a 257 stw For a while. that one may smoke the weatherby

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    Quote Originally Posted by snowgetter1 View Post
    I remember I think sin man had a 257 stw For a while. that one may smoke the weatherby
    I definitely have to look into that one.

    Dean
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    It'll smoke a Weatherby......100grn bullet at an honest 4000FPS. It does need a long barrel though to burn all that powder.

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    I am always intrigued by 25 cal. cartridges and guns. I have two 250 AIs, a striker and a Encore pistol, a 25-06 AI varmint rifle, and my stepson just bought a Mauser in 25-06, that I will reload for. I also have a 25-284 rifle that I sat on the back burner to complete until we can get our housing/my shop area settled.
    But awhile back I ran into a set of dies I couldn't pass up, 25/300 RSAUM. My thought ran to a Striker, or rear grip SP with about a 18" barrel. Here is a picture of the loaded round, 100 gr. Barnes, by the dies,
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    Quote Originally Posted by scope eye View Post
    I shot 500 yards last week at a 12x12 steel plate, and was zeroed in at 100 yards, I only had to add 4 clicks to the scope, to compensate for bullet drop,

    Tanks Dean

    in the hills of pa. young boys are taught to piss that far. lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by yobuck View Post
    in the hills of pa. young boys are taught to piss that far. lol
    Now that was funny...
    'Scuse me while I whip this out...!

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    Quote Originally Posted by yobuck View Post
    in the hills of pa. young boys are taught to piss that far. lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by scope eye View Post
    FYI a 257 Weatherby is exactly that a 300WinMag necked down to 257, 70gr Blitz Kings @ 4500FPS It's love at first flight.

    Dean
    For your information you are exactly wrong the 300 is .071 longer the 300 body is .183 longer and has 6.1 grains more capacity.

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    I meant metaphorically the same.

    Dean
    RUMs are like woman in Stiletto heals, you know they are going to put you in the poor house, but that has never stopped anyone from pursuing them.

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