Hog Hunter Fixed Sight Question

10th_Mntn · 09-15-2012, 03:04 PM

I'm a fan of iron sights and have been looking into the Hug Hunter. I like the overall build but would love a set of good folding iron sights on it. Does anyone have experience with the weapon and the way the sights are attached? Is there a way to get a new set of irons on it without a smithy?

Thanks

**bootsmcguire** · 09-17-2012, 10:37 PM

I handled one at the NRA show back in April, and the sights appeared to be attached the normal savage manner. I liked the fact that after talking with Effie Sullivan while I was at the show, that the rear peep sight used on the Scout rifle, will fit perfectly on the Hog Hunter, since the Hog and the Scout use the same height front sight.

thomae · 09-18-2012, 08:31 AM

Originally Posted by bootsmcguire

I handled one at the NRA show back in April, and the sights appeared to be attached the normal savage manner. I liked the fact that after talking with Effie Sullivan while I was at the show, that the rear peep sight used on the Scout rifle, will fit perfectly on the Hog Hunter, since the Hog and the Scout use the same height front sight.

Based on what Boots said, and since I have a the Scout in my inventory, the factory rear sight is a Williams WGRS-SAVAGE (For Savage 110 with round receiver) rear sight that is screwed on using the rear sight base holes. (I added this adjustable aperture to mine)and the front sight is a Williams streamlined ramp with a Williams .375" height, .250 width bead sight. I replaced mine with a firesight bead that was the same height and width and put a hood on it so it would not get damaged walking around the woods.

The above specs are for my FCM Scout. If the Hog Hunter barrel is thicker at the muzzle, the front sight blade on the Hog Hunter may be appropriately higher or lower.

TraverseSavage · 09-25-2012, 09:56 PM

The above specs are for my FCM Scout. If the Hog Hunter barrel is thicker at the muzzle, the front sight blade on the Hog Hunter may be appropriately higher or lower. [/COLOR]

Would you mind measuring your barrel dia. where your front mount is located? I like your setup, but want something a little more open at the rear sight. Your front sight sounds like what I need though.

I just p/u the Hog hunter and it's measuring .75 +/- where the front bead is. And FYI if anybody needs to know, .9375 at the rear blade (barrel dia.). Was hoping for less taper, still a solid barrel though.

thomae · 09-26-2012, 11:06 AM

TraverseSavage: At the bead, from about 1.5" to about 1" in from the muzzle, the diameter of the barrel is .598" to .592"
If you unscrew the reticle that I have on the rear sight, you get a very open "ghost ring" type sight picture.

Rear sight with my adjustable reticle:

Rear sight without reticle (the rifle really isn't as dirty/dusty as the macro setting with flash makes it out to be):

Another view:

I hope this helps. I couldn't really get the camera to focus as if it were looking through the sights.

TraverseSavage · 09-26-2012, 02:35 PM

Thanks thomae...here's a couple of pics of the Hog Hunter rear and front sight. Not a bad setup I suppose, just have worries of breaking the rear sight off:

What I want to do is attach a single EGW scope scope mount and install a peep on to of that. All the SOPMOD style rear folders I think will be too high. I've been using Brownell's sight height calculation tool:http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/lid=1...ght_Calculator and it says my rear height should be .469, that would include the scope base.

I think this is my answer: http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/pid=4...ER-BACKUP-BASE and then adjust my front height accordingly.

I want to install a scope with quick detach rings and have the irons as a back up

TraverseSavage · 09-19-2012, 11:04 AM

Originally Posted by 10th_Mntn

I'm a fan of iron sights and have been looking into the Hug Hunter. I like the overall build but would love a set of good folding iron sights on it. Does anyone have experience with the weapon and the way the sights are attached? Is there a way to get a new set of irons on it without a smithy?

Thanks

I have the same issue with the sights on the Hog, although no experience yet since I just ordered the rifle yesterday. My gunsmith says 6-48 screws which is perfect since the replacement sights I want to use: this one http://www.marblearms.com/universalRearSights.html for the rear and this one http://www.marblearms.com/frontSights.html for the front (uni-ramp)

10th_Mntn · 09-25-2012, 09:58 AM

Thanks for the helpfull replies..

@TraverseSavage - If you swap out your sights would you mind posting some pics and maybe a range report? I like those Marble Amrs sights..

Thanks

TraverseSavage · 09-25-2012, 01:15 PM

Originally Posted by 10th_Mntn

Thanks for the helpfull replies..

@TraverseSavage - If you swap out your sights would you mind posting some pics and maybe a range report? I like those Marble Amrs sights..

Thanks

Absolutely!!! Picking up the rifle today. I needed to have the rifle in my hands so I could measure the barrel. The Marbles sights come in many different sizes (barrel dia., heights, etc.) and their website has the charts to cross reference with the sight's model number.

Can't wait to shoot it either. I'll also give my semi-professional opinion on the rifle as well. Like I said, not too many reviews on the Hog.

10th_Mntn · 09-25-2012, 02:31 PM

Originally Posted by TraverseSavage

Absolutely!!! Picking up the rifle today. I needed to have the rifle in my hands so I could measure the barrel. The Marbles sights come in many different sizes (barrel dia., heights, etc.) and their website has the charts to cross reference with the sight's model number.

Can't wait to shoot it either. I'll also give my semi-professional opinion on the rifle as well. Like I said, not too many reviews on the Hog.

That would be great.. I'm also looking at the Savage10FP-SR or Precision Carbine. Both rifles are very similar to the Hog, only more expensive with minor upgrades... I've held one and it seems much more solid than people make it sound. The reviews I read just don't make sense. They focus too much on the short barrell. There is no reason a 20" barrel couldn't reach out to 600 yards with consistant accuracy. I think theres a lack of good unbiased reviews..

CCWHusker · 09-28-2012, 10:01 AM

I took them off and used the plugs from the receiver to fill the spots where they were mounted. Normally, a BUIS is a great idea. However, it should be used with an optic that you can quickly and consistently take off and put back on... My HH has a Redfield Revolution firmly placed in a set of Leupold rings and bases. IMHO, there is no other mounting system that is as strong, or permanent. If you've ever worked with them... you will know why they don't at all fall in to a category of quick detachment. To head off any questions about "What if you can't use your optics?"... if that happens; things have gone very, very wrong and it's time to E&E back to the truck with my broken gun or break contact and fight my way back to the truck with my sidearm (more than likely, a Sig P226 with a TLR-1s in .357 Sig or my 1911 if I am ever on a bear hunt). I might go to a QD set up in the future... but that's not the case right now.

Steven R · 12-17-2013, 07:12 PM

I recently purchased a Savage Model 11 Hog Hunter in 308. When I purchased it, it had a scope mounted. At the time, I didn't notice that the rear sight "ramp" elevation had been removed. I can't find one online. Would anyone like to sell me there factory rear ramp sight adjustment ramp for the Model 11 Hog Hunter in 308. I have the piece that is screwed into the barrel but not the rest of it, i.e., sliding ramp and screw. Thanks. The one shown in the picture above looks like it would work perfectly.

**Hotolds442** · 12-17-2013, 10:50 PM

Still waiting for my HH barrel to get here, seems the seller isn't too reliable. Won't answer PM's, tracking number is a week late from when he said he'd send it to me. My plans are to go with the Firesight if the barrel ever arrives. Glad the question was asked, answered a lot that I had.

thomae · 07-10-2015, 12:13 PM

I know this is a resurrected thread...but:
Here's more detail on what I did on my Savage Scout. Not the hog hunter, but fixed sights. : Should work on a hog hunter as well.
http://www.savageshooters.com/showth...7-62x39-review

Works well in various light conditions. The adjustable aperture is the key. The firesight bead really helps as well.