Reply With QuoteNot sure what you are talking about with the "bolt hits the chamber" comment....
For the scope covers, buy some flips from Butler creek, they are about $5.
If you want to be sure about the "free-float", get a dollar and try to slide it through.
Sadly from wal-mart the savage 110fxp bundle in .270 for $447 +tax. Other then that I was eyeballing the Remington 770 .270 $315 out the door no tax. I hope I didn't make a mistake with the savage, anyway, I took it to the range to get sighted in. The .270 had more recoil then I thought it would, after 15 shots I started getting shaky. Was off quite a bit on the 50yrd so I sighted it a bit by shooting 9 rounds. Then moved over to the 100yrd and was barely on the paper with 2 test shots. Made my adjustments and fire 3 more shots and they weren't bulleye's but there around it top and bottom. I could have got a better shots but I was wore-out.
Final thoughts of the gun:
The Bad: I hate the cheap synthetic stock, the barrel has a uneven gap between the stock at the end of it. I believe it touches a little preventing it from floating. The bolt is loose and hits the chamber if I'm holding the bolt handle. If I like gravity hold it and just push it in, then it slides in just fine. I hate using scope caps, I wish they had the folding caps over the scope lens.
The Good: Its my first gun and it was under $500, has a free floating barrel "kinda". The scope works well for me, even though I don't know what a expensive nice scope looks or feels like.
Does anybody have the bolt hitting the chamber problem? I can make a video if need be. Also what is a cheap scope that's better then the bushnell 3x9x40 that comes with it?
Not sure what you are talking about with the "bolt hits the chamber" comment....
For the scope covers, buy some flips from Butler creek, they are about $5.
If you want to be sure about the "free-float", get a dollar and try to slide it through.
I'm a firm believer in the theory that if it bleeds, I can kill it.
Let me explain the problem in more detail sorry for my lack of knowledge on terms.
The bolt is loose and the bolt head hits the chamber if I'm holding the bolt handle after unlocking it and sliding it back or forward. If I unlock it and quit lifting up and just let it sit it will slide in and out effortlessly. I called savage arms and they say it's suppose to be a little loose but it sounds like they were dodging it. I don't think it's suppose to head the chamber with the bolt head, it hits about 1mm.
Last edited by Brokebonez; 09-10-2012 at 12:51 PM.
So nobody has any problems?? Must be nice to have everything go your way.
Hmmm....I own 6 savages/built 4 and still dont see what you are talking about. The bolt is loose when you open it, it should be as its not locked into the action.
You made the right choice in the Savage over the 770. Even Remington fans will tell you it's a pos. I personally have never had any kind of issue with my Savage rifles. If you don't like the stock there are plenty of aftermarket stocks. Congrats on the rifle and don't be shy at the range about asking for pointers.
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How do you not understand the problem? You pull the bolt out and it doesn't come all the way out it hits the chamber before its fully pulled out. Also it hits the chamber when you pushing it back in "loading a bullet" and I have to angle it back in with the bolt handle. Which if I'm going for a 2nd shot on a deer or whatever that's a missed shot because the stupid bolt hit the chamber instead of going into the barrel like its suppose to.
Would most people call this a bolt jam?
Last edited by Brokebonez; 09-10-2012 at 05:46 PM.
The chamber is in front of the bolt in the barrel itself and the bolt will never hit the chamber.
Are you perhaps speaking of the magazine?
It sounds like the bolt head is hitting the front part of the ejection port when going into battery, it shouldn't do that. My savage bolts are easliy worked, maybe not loose but no matter how fast or slow you work the action there aren't any hang ups. Have your local GS take a look, it's tough to diagnose over the internet
Ed
Thank this sounds correct, sorry I don't know the wording that well. I don't have a local GS I live in the middle of no where I would have to send it to savage arms.Originally Posted by Ed Carey
I'll give this one a shot. Your problem might be the front action screw is a tad too long and your hitting that. Otherwise from the way your describing it, it sounds like it is functioning like normal. Like I said "sounds". Your bolt should not pull straight out unless you press the bolt release. When loading your bolt should go forward and stop in the action, then rotate down. If you can take a picture of where it is hitting or like you said a video and we may help you more. It kind of sounds like your bolthead is catching or hitting part of the action. This might but be a burr.
When you lift the bolt handle and pull the bolt back until it stops then push it forward, how far forward does it go before snagging? Also , is it a blind magazine meaning you have to load it from the top?
Last edited by skypilot; 09-10-2012 at 07:01 PM.
It bolt doesn't fall out it just hits chamber on with the bolt head. Same for closing the bolt it hits the ejection port and I have to press down on the bolt handle so it lines up perfectly to slide in. I can't make a video anymore because its all boxed up for ups to deliver to savage arms. Also I'm too tired and have work in 3 hours.
I suggest you work on it more and if anyone on here can't figure it out, then send it. Because if you send it now, savage is going to recieve and it's going to cycle fine and they're gonna send it right back. So you're out of shipping cost and time away from shooting.
And about what you said earlier with the" what if I'm hunting and I need to get a 2nd round in on the deer"....That's not going to happen. Your first shot is going to scare him and by the time you have reloaded and got back on the scope, he's long gone.
It sounds like to me the front scope base screws might be hitting the bolt head.
That is not always the case, I had one duck for about 15 seconds and pop back up running and I got it the 2nd shot. I've put 40rnds of 130gr federal through it since new 8/31 and savage arms is paying pre-paid shipping so I'm not losing money on sending it in.
Did you mean duck or buck?
If you did mean duck, then I believe it. Birds are stupid.
I THINK he meant a BUCK that DUCK(ed) from a shot. Good luck on your issue with Savage. I hope for you that they can duplicate the issue as you know it. I know, that might sound ridiculous. Yer prolly sayin "How can they NOT see it?" But you never know. For the record I was with everyone else with your "hanging up on the chamber" comment. Until someone pointed out that you might be meaning the ejection port. There are a LOT OF KNOWLEDEABLE SAVAGE folks here. You are in the right place!
Good luck!!
It does not sound to me, like it will cycle normally for Savage. Something's not right, his terms may not be right, but I get what he is saying, I think it needs to go back. too bad, sounds like the poor guy has zero help locally. Not to mention he feels like the 270 is a hard kicker. Not sure how old he is, but sounds like he doesn't have a lot of experience shooting. Sorry to hear his first Savage rifle has an issue.
Ups is suppose to pick it up tomorrow, I wish I would have taken some pictures or video of it. There are 2 gouges on the bolt head and the side railing that the bolt slides on/against. The finish looks like its been sanded with 80grit sandpaper. I don't know if that's normal from wear or if the machinery is just bad. I'm highly disappointed with savage arms, if they can fix my issues I may think about purchasing another down the road. But it does put a bad taste in my mouth, I hope they can make it right.
I had a rfile that the bolt head would catch on the edge of the action, right at the corner of the port only when there was another round in the mag. After pulling the bolt back then start to push forward it strips the next round out of the mag. As I pushed it forward to chamber the round, the next round in the mag or the mag feed lips pushed up on the bolt & caused it to hit the edge of the action just as it was going in. It was an older stagger feed 110. I had to adjust the mag feed lips a little to hold the next round a little lower.
The metal the mag was made of was real springy & did not bend very easy. I eventually got it all aligned to where if functioned OK. The magazine may be sitting a wee bit high and need to be adjusted accordingly. I recall someone at Savage telling me they didn't make that style of mag any longer beacuse of reliability issues & such.
I didn't have a lot of experience with Savage or any rifles at the time so I didn't bother to take it apart. I later found out I could have / should have pulled the action & check out why the mag was too hi.
He may be dealing with a similar issue, if it's not the action screw hitting the bottom of the bolt head on the way in.
Later........ Off to the SALT MINE.
Frank in Fla
Last edited by fgw_in_fla; 09-11-2012 at 06:32 AM.
'Scuse me while I whip this out...!
I'm with M.O.A. and handsomerob. It sounds to me like the bolt might be hitting one of the front scope base mounting screws or receiver screws. If the rifle/scope was mounted by a "gunsmith" at Wal-Mart I would not be surprised if one or both of the two front scope base mounting screws or receiver screws are a teensy bit too long and interfering with the bolt. Bend your small finger into the top front grove in the receiver between the magazine and chamber. You might be able to feel the scope base mounting screw if it is too long. Even if you cannot feel one or both of those screws, you might try removing both of them. Then check the bolt for proper closing.
If you do send the rifle to Savage I would send it with both scope bases installed. Savage will thoroughly check the rifle and do a proper repair if something is wrong. You might have to pay for return shipping.
Good luck.
Last edited by John_M; 09-11-2012 at 02:51 PM.
Brokebonez: Where in MO are you? I am in KY but make it over to the Cape Girardeau & St. Louis area quite a bit. When it comes back I could take a look at it and show you where your terminology made it difficult to describe what was happening.
UPS just picked it up, I'm from Whiteman AFB, mo a good 2 hours from St. Louis. There is a YouTube video of somebody that bought a walmart special just like mine and had problems. I believe he said that savage arms gave him a new one.
If he bought the #10 FXP, it's a package deal from Savage to include the scope (which includes bases & rings), so I doubt the screws are too long.
Not being real experienced and more able to explain the issue technically, it's best he sends it in.
OP... I know it's a bummer, but don't throw the baby out with the bath water. Savage is THE BEST, MOST ACCURATE, out of the box rifle you can buy.
Like most folks here, I'm a Savage fan not because I own one...I own three! And I wouldn't own that many if they hadn't proven to be superior rifles.
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