Reply With Quoteput some duct tape on the barrel where you clamp it
So I'm in the process of trying to get my barrel nut removed from my .308 with the factory 22" sporter barrel on it. Apparently I got one of the ones with the gorrilla tightened nut. I know there are many here that swear by action wrenches, but I went the cheap route (college student) and ended up with a wheeler barrel nut wrench.
I made a barrel vise out of hardwood contoured to my barrel but try as I might, the thing still spins under a HUGE amount of torque in my vise. Today I'll be adding corn starch (cheap man's rosin) to the vise to try and create more friction as well as adding some penetrating oil to the nut and through the front base mount.
Provided that I can actually get the vise to hold the barrel, I'll be using the propane torch to hopefully expand the metal too.
Any advice would be much appreciated! Thanks!
put some duct tape on the barrel where you clamp it
don't try to push or pull on the wrench just hit it with a deadblow hammer. a couple of really good whacks should break the nut loose.
"And you shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.” John 8:32 (New King James Version)
Forget the deadblow HIT it with a real hammer. No reason to be nice to it now.
I tried this, but it actually made the barrel spin more freely.Originally Posted by keeki
Just clamp it in and whack the crap out of it. It will come off.
Nope - deadblow is way better than a standard hammer - transfers all the energy to the wrench instead of bouncing off.
1 - make sure your front scope base is removed
2 - yes penetrating oil
3 - make sure your blocks have a hole that is smaller than the barrel (you can shave off some of the "legs" on either side of the hole to do this). You can also line the blocks with tough leather (old boot tongue).
4 - tighten the HECK out of the vice
5 - use a 3 or 5 pound dead blow hammer (not rubber mallet but a true deadblow).
If you heat it and let it cool back down without getting it off, you will have made the problem worse!
Couple of ways....
don't bend the action for an $11 nut....
use Kroil...hairdryer....vise....
If all fails split the nut with a Dremel tool.....get a new nut.....
Don't bust your nut trying loosen a Savage nut......
S/shot Savage & heavy Pac Nor's rock !! 'JM' Marlin lever gun nut !
yeah that last line
Use the penetrating oil
wrap electrical tape around the recoil lug and front of the action to prevent marring
get a large crescent wrench and clamp it around the recoil lug, lay the whole operation on some padding on the floor
put wheeler wrench on nut at about 45 degrees to the floor
step on wrench til seal breaks
haven't found one yet (out of six) that could resist 200 lbs of redneck standing on it
At this point, should I be considering upgrading my recoil lug? Also, is there any risk in this approach to twisting the action?
Use the penetrating oil
wrap electrical tape around the recoil lug and front of the action to prevent marring
I use a piece of leather.
get a large crescent wrench and clamp it around the recoil lug,
I have a 15in cresent i use for this
lay the whole operation on some padding on the floor
put wheeler wrench on nut at about 45 degrees to the floor
step on wrench til seal breaks
This is where i use the hammer
haven't found one yet (out of six) that could resist 200 lbs of redneck standing on it
I have broke 5 loose like this
At this point, should I be considering upgrading my recoil lug? Also, is there any risk in this approach to twisting the action?
If you keep the wrench tight and all the way up on the lug and action with the tape or leather you will not twist the action nor mar the finish. Just remember the lug goes down in the jaws of the cresent.
You will have it all broke down and you are ordering a barrel so i would order a new machined lug.
"And you shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.” John 8:32 (New King James Version)
Actually I have a factory takeoff heavy barrel from a 12FV. I have an open order for a longer bolt handle over at SSS, should I add a recoil lug to it? Or just not bother? Any real benefit for the recreational shooter like myself?
If all you are looking for is minute of deer/hog or something like that then the factory lug will work fine. If you decide you want to get every bit you can out of the gun without all the extra gunsmith work then the lug is a well spent 20 something dollars. For your recreational shooting i would just go with the factory lug.
"And you shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.” John 8:32 (New King James Version)
Where can I find it for 20 something? I've seen mid 30's even from SSS.
Northland has small shank lugs for 27 and large shank lugs for 29 Just call Jim he is a great guy to deal with and will get you a lug out asapWhere can I find it for 20 something? I've seen mid 30's even from SSS.
"And you shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.” John 8:32 (New King James Version)
Well I finally got the nut off...with a dremel. Ended up screwing the thread up a bit on the factory barrel too, oh well (although it still threads fine, hmm). In the process I marred up the recoil lug anyways. I guess it gave me an excuse to upgrade it. I'll be ordering (hopefully both if he sells them) tomorrow first thing! Thanks!Northland has small shank lugs for 27 and large shank lugs for 29 Just call Jim he is a great guy to deal with and will get you a lug out asapWhere can I find it for 20 something? I've seen mid 30's even from SSS.
Don't use heat, you don't need it and it can damage your action. Powdered sugar works better than corn starch. I have had zero luck with homemade wooden barrel blocks. Buy an action wrench, use it, then resell it if you don't want to keep it for future use, it is far cheaper than damaging an action.
Bob
It's better to shoot for the moon and hit the fencepost than to shoot for the fencepost and hit the ground!
Sorry I didn't see this one yesterday....The nut & lug are about equal in value with the take-off barrel....Therefore, a good pipe wrench with your barrel nut wrench could have worked.....Also the advice to stand on it is all I ever do...I lay a clean rug or cardboard on the floor and "bounce" a little on the real tough ones...I weigh 180 and it has worked everytime..I do, however, use this in combination with an action wrench but used a pipe wrench one time with no problem....
Good luck with your project and welcome to this "affliction"...
randy
GunShack has the items you need also.
http://www.gunshack.com/index.php?ro...tegory&path=25
Holy Crap!!
Thanks! I called and emailed Jim at NSS and haven't got a response and need those ASAP. Looks like I'll be going with Gun Shack!
Wow I ordered and the goods (nut and lug) were shipped out same day! Looks like I'll be ordering from them from now on!
Well they were at least marked as "shipped" in their system (or a tracking number was created). Maybe they are on a truck, maybe they aren't.
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