Try 24.7 TAC with the Sierra MK's. Fantastic load. Especially for long range!
There are 3 kinds of people in this world. Those who can do math and those who can't
@dark- yes the 69smks go to sleep quickly and shoot great out of our 1-9twists I have newly developed a good load for my 1-9's : lc-11 25 benchmark cci-400 with .057 jump <that's where they shoot the best so I'm
Hoping for a lil better akrobats out of the dogs this year
couple of savages
XBR8208 XBR8208 XBR8208 XBR8208 XBR8208 XBR8208 XBR8208 XBR8208 XBR8208 XBR8208 XBR8208 XBR8208 XBR8208 XBR8208
I shot today with 8208 XBR powder, loaded 50 rounds, 5 sets V-Max loads, and 5 sets of Berger Varmit loads.
I will say ONE tenth of a grain makes a big difference with this gun!
OK, first, I will post pictures of the target tomorrow morning.
My OEM, non bedded, VLP 9 twist LOVED 25.6grns of XBR with the 53 grn V-Max, will post the COAL tommorow also.
CCI 450 primers.
I tried 52 grn Berger Varmits and they were very close as well, same load-within .3 grns compared to the V-Max loads! I will have to play just a "little" bit with them to get them perfect, +.1 or -.1 grain plus try different COAL's! But it's not gonna take much!
I had my loads too hot in previous test, all previous test were 26.0+ grns! All test today started at 25.0 grains!
I already had a 52grain "Target" Berger shooting less than .200, tight cloverleaf! The gun also love 69 grn SMK's!
I have a Rifle Basix trigger set to 5 oz's, this is the only modification. I guess I am going to bed the gun now!
My next project, fine tuning my 22-250 with the same bullets!
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PS: I am having a blast shooting this 223, I bought it just to get trigger time!
It's a fun gun to shoot and very accurate. I have tried it out to 200yds, I have a 243 & 22-250 to go further if I need them!
I had a great IRAQ ARMY vet shooting with me (just came back this year) using his AR15-223.
"GREAT GUY", but he was laughing at my gun. When I picked up my target, he wanted me to shoot his gun to see what I could do with it! I got a pretty good kick out of this!
BUT AGAIN, he was a great guy! We ended up having a long talk after shooting! He was totally against a long rifle at first, now he is thinking about getting one! All I said, Just put one bullet in the right place and you don't need 29 more! His main future plans are varmit shooting! IMO, the VLP 9 twist is the way to go!
We talked about the 7 twist, but again, I personally feel this is too much for Varmit shooting. If you wanna put your opinion in on the 7 twist, I will pass it on to him!
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75gr Hornady HPBT
24.0gr Varget
Lapua Brass
CCI-400
2875fps from a 26" 9 twist 12FV barrel, works great on steel out to 650yd.
Wondering if my barrel is one of the lucky 9 twist ones that stabilizes a 75gr A-Max...
Here are the two pictures of my targets shooting 53 grn V-Max's and 52 grn Berger Varmits.
As I stated, I have to tweak the Bergers "just" a little, but I am going to leave the V-Max load as is!
53grn V-Max - 5 shot group 100yds
52grn Berger Varmit - 5 shot group 100yds, My fault on the one shot that's out of the group!
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Holy $&-@ ^ nice shooting Dennis!!!!!! Xbr here we come!
couple of savages
...Nice....Running mag prs. eh..
Yup.Nice.. ..Running mag prs. eh..
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PS: I put a Rifle Basix trigger on the gun, this is the only thing that I have done to the gun.
I might go ahead and bed the rifle, it's improved all my other rifles.
OR would "you" leave it alone since it's shooting as good as it is?
The questions: BED or DO NOT bed???
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Originally Posted by Dennis
...+1..
Thanks for posting this one....shoots outstanding in my Axis 223 with ADI brass, Wolf primers, and a 60gr Nosler Ballistic Tip.
Savage F/TR precision chamber and super duper accu trigger (red) 30" barrel, 1:7 twist
69 gr. Sierra Match Kings 25.0 Varget best of all. Same for 69 gr Nosler Custom Competition. Raggy hole at 100 for both.
73 gr Berger BT NOT VLD 22.6 Varget. At 200 yards, 5 shot groups averaging a bit over 1/2" overall and several less than .4"
55 gr or less weight cannot be used. Bullets either fly to miss the whole board or disintegrate so no input.
Above with either Lapua, RWS or Hornady brass, all turned and various but uniform to the case neck bushings depending on the brass.
CCI 400 primers
Last edited by Fotheringill; 07-20-2016 at 02:43 PM.
This has worked well in my rig with 55gr. Nosler Varmageddons
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Good to see this post back again. Most rifles in published reloading manuals for the 223 are 1-12 twist for bolt actions....Since the Savage is 1-9, results from shooters using Savage rifles is sometimes a better indicator of real performance with different powder-bullet combinations. Going to work with XBR 8208 today.
Just got back from shooting a sort-of duplicate of "BarrelBurner's" XBR8208 load in his Model 12. It's a keeper in my Axis rifle also. Did not know the brass he used and I used Wolf primers rather than CCI.. The good news is that this load impacts on the same vertical line above the target dot as ADI 69gr Factory ammunition and the 60gr Nosler load with IMR4895 posted by "rjtfroggy"....1" higher than both but on the same vertical plane.
Bottom line is that 3 three shot groups averaged less than .40" and no windage correction was necessary. Works for me. Thanks for posting those loads guys!
Axis with 22" Stevens sporter barrel and Boyd's Prairie Hunter stock.
ADI Brass Neck Sized
Wolf Primers
24.2gr IMR8208XBR
55gr Nosler Varmageddon
COAL=2.378"
Elevation 7100' Temperature 84 Humidity 38 No Wind
3 shot group=.35"
Last edited by wbm; 07-22-2016 at 08:37 AM.
Glad to hear it worked out well for you. I use that load in Speer and Lapua brass both. I've used Wolf and Tula primers with it too. I didn't see any noticeable difference with them but I have a lot of cci so that's the flavor of the day. If it's really a hot day I back it down to 24.0grs
Since I feed several I use a general recipe to fit all. 25 varget under 55 gr vmax. 24 varget under 69 SMK. All with LC case and 400 primer. All set to ar mag length.
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Savage Model 12 FLV, 1/9 twist
Lake City brass (sorted-all 2012 year manuf. brass)
CCI BR-4 match primer
24.6 grn H4895
2.35 OAL
69 grn Sierra HPBT MATCH
300 YARDS, CALM WINDS
Looking good copterdrvr! Will give this one a go and see how she flys.
thanks!
Unfortunately it won't fit in an AR mag, but even stuffed it shoots really well.
Lemme know how it does in your gear-it appears to work pretty well in other rifles.
Works good in mine. This thread definitely needs to continue. Lot's of loads specific to 1-9 Twist Savage rifles in different configurations. Several loads listed that I have tried worked well in my Savage 223's also.
Interesting conversation at the range several months ago discussing OCW, OBT and universal loadings that seemed to work in any gun. Was provided with the following recipe:
LC brass
25.0g of IMR 8208 XBR
Sierra 55g HPBT (#1390)
COAL to AR mag length 2.26"
I have fired it through both AR's and bolt actions with 16" to 24" barrels and 1:8 to 1:9 twist rates. All with outstanding accuracy at 100 yards - including a new factory second SS Axis that was shooting sub 1/2-MOA groups out of the box.
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I've found the XBR to shoot well in most everything I have tried. However this powder leaves a guy with a very tight window for charge weights. I recommend if using it to use a very accurate scale because as already mentioned 1/10th gn can make a big difference and most all scales, especially the cheaper electronic ones are struggling to even weigh within 1-2 tenths on a consistent basis. This makes this powder in small capacity cases like the .223 a hard powder to get that near perfect load repeatable if your node is right at that specific tenth of a grain. You also must watch the pressure signs with it for the same reason prev. mentioned, especially if you're seating close to or on the lands and/or using military cases. That said, my .204 Ruger LRPV likes it a lot with 32 gn bullets.
My Savage 12 Low Profile with McGowen 1 x 9 loves the 53 HPFB Sierra at 2.255 over 24.7 gr of 8208. Only ever get to shoot at 100 yds any more but it bug holes.
Since I had all the listed ingredients on hand, I gave this formula a go yesterday. Add an Axis with sporter barrel to the list of "loadings that seemed to work in any gun." Very accurate! Thank you sir.Interesting conversation at the range several months ago discussing OCW, OBT and universal loadings that seemed to work in any gun. Was provided with the following recipe:
LC brass
25.0g of IMR 8208 XBR
Sierra 55g HPBT (#1390)
COAL to AR mag length 2.26"
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