I bedded a stock a while ago and used a 2 part adhesive by Devcon. It was clear and was a liquid when I was applying it. I would like to use something that is more of a paste this time. I see references to JB weld as well as Devcon frequently but never a specific product name. At the home stores both of those companies have many types of adhesives - fast setting, underwater, etc.
Specifically, what products have people been using for their projects (the only specific product I read is Devcon Steel Putty, but have never seen that at the store).
--------Savage - the last refuge for the persecuted left handed rifleman----------------
+1 on the Devcon steel putty. Look for it on Sinclair's website, or Brownell's or Midway USA.
Devcon makes other products that are similar, but don't work as well as the two-part steel putty. Its kinda expensive, about $40.00 for the good stuff, but well worth it IMHO. Do not go for the premixed Devcon putty that they sell in small tubes at auto parts stores; i have tried this and it's not the same as the two-part kind that comes in two tubs. I will look for it and try to post a link.
I have used Devcon, it is a great product. I have also heard of people using JB Weld but have also heard that it is crap for bedding a rifles. You will be be able to find what you need in a box store, go to Brownells or Midway USA's website and you can order what you need.
The "correct" devcon steel putty is not clear, but dark grey, and very heavy, presumably because of all the powdered steel in it.
Correct one is, Devcon 10110, paste, two part.
and how does this one compare, devcon plastic steel epoxy, 2 part to be mixed
http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_1...=SPM2690751201
--------Savage - the last refuge for the persecuted left handed rifleman----------------
Can't speak for that one. I do know that devcon #10110 as in the link i posted, works very well for rifle bedding. As i stated earlier, i have tried other Devcon premixed epoxy products that were not suitable for rifle bedding. I have not tried the one in your link.
By the way, the #10110 kit comes with enough to do more than one bedding job.
Honestly the product in your link is crap for bedding, I was taught at a very young age that is you are not going to hire a professional and your going to do it yourself then make sure you use the proper tools. The Devcon that everyone has suggested is the proper tool for a bedding job, the Devcon product you are asking about is not. I understand that the Devcon liquid steel is a lot cheaper but we are talking about using it on a rifle. It is your rifle however and you can do as you desire!
Right or Wrong - Just My Thoughts on the Subject
I have used devcon 2-ton mixed with microspheres and it worked
I have bedded hundreds with Devcon Plastic Steel two part standard set. There is a 5 minute fast set, however; it does not allow you enough working time.
When bedding a silhouette rifle I use Devcon Plastic Aluminum for the weight savings. I like to put the weight in the barrel not the stock.
I am not at my shop right now, but I will get the product numbers and post them tomorrow evening.
Best regards,
Grit
i couldn't find Devcon anywhere in my area so I used Accraglas gel and couldn't be happier. It is easy to measure and mix, is thick enough to stay where you want, but flowed good under pressure to fill all the voids that I wanted it to. It was affordable and my local gun shop keeps it in stock. Just another option for you to look at.
I used JB weld to bed a mosin nagant. It worked well, and I would use it again. I would recomend that you let it set up a few minutes before pouring it though.
J&B does work well but the set up/hardening time for the Devcon is much faster.
Vietnam Vet, Jun 66 - Dec 67
I have used Pro Bed 2000 on a couple of rifles and it seems to work really well. It was designed specifically for bedding for what it's worth.
Devcon steel putty 10110
Originally Posted by GaCop
That is true, it was a long 8 hours to see if had stuck it or not. JB also makes a quick version that has a cure time of 4 hours.
The deal with epoxy is:
The slower it is about setting up, the tougher it will tend to be when it's done.
Adding filler material or not has no effect upon this rule. Slow-setting epoxy with steel filler will be tougher than fast-setting epoxy would be with the same filler.
I've seen five-minute epoxy that you could dent with your thumbnail, 24 hours after it was set. The only thing worse that that, I would suppose, would be the hot-melt bedding system that some manufacturers resort to.
I got some of the steel putty 10110 and am not sure I am confident the release agent is working as I hoped on some trial runs with scrap metal. I am testing both shoe polish and Pam cooking spray.
Does it work best to take it apart after a couple of hours, or let it go a full 12 hours, or somewhere in the middle?
--------Savage - the last refuge for the persecuted left handed rifleman----------------
I used Kiwi shoe polish on my last bedding job with devcon steel putty 10110 the results were great.
I used Kiwi clear polish and I, too, had my doubts, but after letting it sit overnight, and rapping the sides of the stock with a rubber mallet, it popped right out. Made a beautiful job, too; I couldn't have been more pleased with the results.
Put a couple of good coats of Kiwi on every surface that will contact the Devcon. Make sure that there are no mechanical locks. Then get a good nights' sleep. It will pop out in the morning.
I found that 5 hours worked, I had to do a skim coat to fix a rough finish where some of the material broke apart and stayed with the action on removal. This was after about 2.5 hours and the devcon was not hard enough. The devcon cleaned off of the action easily, but I am not sure if it would have hardened and stuck more permanently with time. I think my issue was not a thick enough layer of shoe polish. For my skim bedding I really put the polish on and the action came out with no effort at all and the remaining bedding is slick and smooth.
--------Savage - the last refuge for the persecuted left handed rifleman----------------
I have used the 2 part JB weld (goo consistency) and the Quick Steel (grey center & black outside).
Kiwi shoe polish as the non stick agent.
Depending on the rifle design, its easier to use one or the other. the goo makes much more of a mess but gives you more working time before it sets up. i found it was more prone to air bubbles as i played with it trying to fill all the spaces.
i will use quick steel again as just a preference.
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