Reply With QuoteI've not done it but heard of someone doing it with either a Savage or Marlin XL7. 30-06/308 bolt head should work. I think the 35 rem case head is just a smidgen smaller than the 06 but should still work.
Have any of you done this conversion? I have heard of it being done, but what bolt head would accomadate
the 35 REM case head?
I've not done it but heard of someone doing it with either a Savage or Marlin XL7. 30-06/308 bolt head should work. I think the 35 rem case head is just a smidgen smaller than the 06 but should still work.
I read/heard of somebody on another website doing this conversion and using a bolt head for 7.62x39mm.
Said he spent around $600 for parts, rifle, barrel, etc.
A standard 30-06 / 308 bolt head will work but you may need a longer extractor (like the 7.62x39 or PPC extractor).
Maybe it was PPC bolt head that he mentioned, thanks Eric.
Unless there is some compeling reason for a .35 rem in a bolt action, it would be more economical to buy a used Marlin 336 in .35 Rem considering what it will cost for a new barrel and other stuff like bolt head etc.
El Lobo
+1 If going through all that work, you'd be better off with a 358 chambering, you can always load that down to 35 Rem performance yet have more power/performance when you need it.Originally Posted by ellobo
Vietnam Vet, Jun 66 - Dec 67
You don't need a PPC bolt head - standard 308 bolt head works fine but you need a longer (PPC) extractor.
Shouldn't cost any more than any other cartridge conversion (except for the $10 or whatever for the extractor).
35 Rem is a great cartridge and loading down the 358 won't get you the accuracy you get with good 35 Rem loads (my experience) and 35 Rem factory ammo is a lot more common than 358.
The Marlin 336 is a fine rifle but will never be as accurate as a Savage!
Currently have two on Swede mausers (using original bolt faces and extractors) - used to have one on an old "short action" 110 that I made an extractor for - it would extract about 50% of the time with the factory length extractor.
Eric, I was curious about the .35 rem in a 336 as I wasnt impressed with the accuracy of the .30-30 which is Minute of deer in most rifles I have shot. The first one I tried was my brothers. I was amazed at how much more accurate it was that the 30-30's I tried. It held right around an inch at 100, open sights (When I had much younger eyes). After that I tried 4 more I managed to weedle out of various people to try and they were the same. Surprised me, even better with the scoped rifles I tried. This was about 35 yrs ago. Excellent for the shorter range effectivness of the old .35. Thats why I recommended it in a Marlin 336. No dought it would be more accurate in a bolt gun but for 150 yd. max shot distance I would use one at, but I would not feel I was deprived in any way with a 336. If he wants a bolt gun in .35 more power to him. I got Savages to barrel to my favorite cartridges as they were not available in current other models. 7mmMauser and .35 Whelen. Been loving those rifles ever since. Even made a .308.
Up here in the heavy woodlands of NH that old .35 will be seen very frequently in the woods. Most old timers I know, that is thier one and only deer and bear rifle.
El Lobo
Eric, any pictures of your Swede Mauser 35 Rems?
+1 358 Winchester
+1 for the 35 Rem in the 336. I had one in my younger days back in the 70's. For practice and small game I loaded 38 cal pistol bullets and could get 1.5" groups out to 75 yards using just the factory iron sights. After mounting a 1.5X4.5 scope, I could get my light load groups down to about 1" at 100 yards. I have no idea what velocities I was getting as chronographs were too expensive on a SSgt's pay.
Vietnam Vet, Jun 66 - Dec 67
Will try to get some up this weekend.
You might likr this article
http://www.gunweek.com/2003/feature0301.html
Thanks for the cool article SF, I have heard of converting Marlin 35s to 358 before. Have also heard of
converting Remington M760 pump 35 Rems to 358 Win.
What pressure does the 358 operate at? I would have thought that the pressure would be beyond what would be safe in the 336 action being that the 358 was really more of a bolt action round.
I always look to Hodgdons reloading pages to get a balbark feel for what presures and velocities a cartridge has.
http://data.hodgdon.com/cartridge_load.asp
358 operating pressures should be in the same range as the parent cartridge.
Vietnam Vet, Jun 66 - Dec 67
Several things about that article worry me and a couple of things are clearly wrong. One example being that the 35 Rem is based on the 30 and 32 Rem family - it isn't. The 25, 30, and 32 Rem all have a .418 rim diameter and the 35 is totally different at .460 or so.
Another being the lack of clarity on what loads were tested and proved "safe" - the only one mentioned uses 147 grain 9mm bullets. These light weight, undersized (.355) bullets might work fine. Don't know whether it would hold together with a full house 250 grain .358 bullet load!
That's kinda what I was thinking. Although the Marlin 336 is a great rifle and I'm a big Marlin fan myself, I wouldn't trust something operating in the 50K+psi range in one.
I always thought that the 25Rem, 30Rem, 32Rem, and 35Rem were from the same case also.
Nope the 35 is larger in diameter - completely different from the others which are rimless versions of the Winchester cartridges (25-35, 30-30 and 32 special).
The bolt head 35Rem is halfway between the 7.62x39 and the 308Win/30-06 size, if you want the 35cal go for the Whelan which is hotter than the Rem and uses std bolt (but long action)
Jericho,
Find the right bolthead and have it machined to fit(Savages are oversized to allow for misalignment), Modify an extractor to fit if you have too and buy an E.R. Shaw Barrel for 160 from Lance at the Gun Shack. When your done write us a great article like the one on the 336 conversion.
If you need any machinist help or advice put it on hear and one of us metalheads will help out.
Probably my favorite all time cartridge, let us know how you do. I might not be too far behind as I've pondered this idea more than once!
-Jake
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