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    New member, stupid question?


    As a brand new forum member, I like to say "Howdy" to all! Now on to the stupid question. Anyone care to guess how much weight I could trim off my Savage 10fp in .223 by taking the factory 24" heavy barrel down to 20". I'm looking to lighten up my primary coyote rifle and I'm still weighing (pun intended) my options. One other option would be to just go with a factory sporter barrel. Thanks!

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    I would go to savage's web site and look at a 10PC and a similar 24" model and check the weight difference. That should give you a ball park number.

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    Re: New member, stupid question?

    Quote Originally Posted by chemist1
    I would go to savage's web site and look at a 10PC and a similar 24" model and check the weight difference. That should give you a ball park number.
    Unfortunately Savage's site seems to be notoriously inaccurate on their weight specs for different models. ::)

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    Re: New member, stupid question?

    About 5 oz.
    "As long as there's lead in the air....there's still hope.."

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    Re: New member, stupid question?

    if its stainless its .76lbs or 12.16oz

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    im sorry, i miss calculated. its .71lbs or 11.36oz. for 416 stainless, .715lbs or 11.44oz for 4142 chrome moly. thats how much 4" of barrel with diameter of .83" with a .224 bore weighs

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    Re: New member, stupid question?

    nemhead,
    Aint no sech things as a stupid question. but on the other hand they is answers. ;D

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    Re: New member, stupid question?

    Not a stupid question, and you asked it someplace where you would get a good answer.
    I however am looking to go in the other direction with my .223.
    Good luck.
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    Re: New member, stupid question?

    The overall weight difference likely won't be noticed (or at least I can't notice it) while carrying the rifle. However, since the weight came off the end of the barrel, it does change the overall balance and handling quite a bit.

    FWIW, I'm making this comparison based on a 10FP with a 24" barrel versus a 10FP with a 20" barrel.
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    Quote Originally Posted by keeki
    im sorry, i miss calculated. its .71lbs or 11.36oz. for 416 stainless, .715lbs or 11.44oz for 4142 chrome moly. thats how much 4" of barrel with diameter of .83" with a .224 bore weighs
    Not even close.......I just weighed some barrel cut offs. 5 oz for .750(predator hunter contour) and 8 oz for a varmint weight(.820).
    "As long as there's lead in the air....there's still hope.."

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    Re: New member, stupid question?

    then one of our scales is broken.lol. are your cutoffs .223?

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    416 stainless weighs .276lbs per cubic inch, 4142 chrome moly weighs .283 per cubic inch. Now all you have to do is figure how many cubic inches is in 4" of your barrel

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    You must be an engineer..... ;D
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    nah, but I have driven a train before.lol. welder for 22 yrs and studied a little metallurgy.

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    Before I would get to hackin the barrel off,take it apart and look to the aftermarket for a lighter composite stock.Some of stockades are really lite and I am sure he can give you the advice you seek. Also scopes vary widely in weight and mounts also.Find a way to not cut the barrel and I think you would be way better off.There are wood laminates that are lighter than some of the plastic ones,especially choate.Chote makes a rigid stock but they way in at 5.5 lbs on average.I have a stockade elk hunter thumbhole that weighs less than 2 pounds for instance. Look at it from a different angle first and do the research to make imformed end result conclusions so you dont do it twice like many of us have.
    Willing to give back for what the sport has done for me!

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    Re: New member, stupid question?

    The old advice "Measure twice, cut once" applies to decisions like this. And I am an Engineer.

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    Re: New member, stupid question?

    Quote Originally Posted by ellobo
    The old advice "Measure twice, cut once" applies to decisions like this. And I am an Engineer.

    El Lobo
    If you don't do it this way you end up with "I cut it twice and it's still too short"...

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    Re: New member, stupid question?

    I appreciate the replies! Long story short, I don't think I'm going to trim as much weight off this rifle as I'd like just by lopping 4 inches off the barrel. I have purchased a factory sporter barrel and I'm replacing my old scope with one that weighs 10 oz. less. This should get me closer to the runnin' & gunnin' coyote gun that I envision. I'm kind of slow but I have learned that a 12 pound, 45" oal rifle is not what I want to drag around all day.

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    I could be wrong but my old school "pi are squared math" puts sharpshooter a lot closer to the actual weight...
    .83 OD tube with .224 ID hole thru it @ 4 long and .276 #/cu. in = approx. 8.9 ounces US.
    .75 OD, .224 ID, 4 long = 7.1 ounces US
    Take away the crown & taper weight and Sharpshooter is real close.....
    Oh yeh I verified my math with solid modeling

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    Dang! Thats the first time Ive ever been wrong. :'( Ok second time.

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