I ordered mine on the 13th and are awaiting clearance by customs here in NZ. Hoping tomorrow or early next week
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I ordered mine on the 13th and are awaiting clearance by customs here in NZ. Hoping tomorrow or early next week
After reading about the Boyd's stocks and seeing pics of them I decided to take that giant step forward & retire a couple of my plastic stocks. It's not going to be easy after all the modifications & work I did to them over the years. They served me well & they kept my aim straight & true BUT...
After meeting that guy that broke his at the grip (fla hunter, I think) I always worried about that happening to me at a very inopportune time. I'm going to change out 2 on my favorite rifles - the 25-06 & the .308. I feel bad about retiring them but I believe its time to upgrade.
Now...
Questions for you guys that did the change out.
I ordered mine with a stainless trigger guards. Anyone here do the same? Anything I need to know or is it pretty straight forward?
Did anyone have to wallow out the barrel channel to accommodate a fat barrel? Pretty easy? - as in wood reasonably workable or is it like cutting petrified wood?
Sorry for all the questions. This isn't easy for me. I've grown quite fond of the plastic stocks & almost feel like I'm about to lose a close friend.
The day I receive them, before I do the swap out I'll be asking everyone to observe 60 seconds of silence with me to honor them.
If anyone is interested in Boyd's Tacticool stock, head over to "vendor announcements and +1 the post. It's a good looking affordable "tactical" stock that would be for the axis.
so, my order is on back order........
Thanks! Everyone said to use a dowel, but I didn't have one, so I dug through the garage to see what else I had. The nice things about the sockets are the ability to use different sizes to fine tune the channel.
None of the Boyd's I've had have ever been too tough to work with. Not sure what they use for laminate (I guess I could go look), but you should be good to go.
I have two more Axis builds going together, so I'll need to open up two more stocks (hopefully they'll both be in tacticool stocks).
all the stocks i ordered shipped.....i hope i get an early shipment cause i wont be home to enjoy it. :(
My stock arrived on monday, many thanks, but I still have a problem. I am short, and I was hoping that I might be able to reduce the length of pull on my prairie, but that interferes with the check piece. For me now to fix that properly, I should have ordered a special which would have fixed the problem, however, since I am in New Zealand, I have the problem of the $100 dollars export cap to contend with with the special charges on top it puts me over!! bummer! Is there a way we can get around this. You may post here or privately to labelman@clear.net.nz. Its a cracker stock, but for me at this stage not very user friendly. your help is needed please.
thanks in advance - les
Don't worry, I have thought of that as well. It was surprising how much longer than the youth stock it is. Well over the 1 1/2" The cut to take me back far enough would go through pretty much where the check piece finishes and where the sling stud is situated. My problem of course, as well as being not comfortable, is trying to climb into the scope to focus. I am off to my local gun shop this morning to look further into my scope mounts to bring my scope further back. It might partially solve my problem.
The majority of shooting, is off a bipod shooting goats from a fixed position. I may well have to learn to fudge it for a while, while I get used to it.
I am a we bit hesitant as yet to do a custom, but it may well come to that.
Note that length of pull in the original Savage stock is 13 1/2" Boydes is 13 3/4, Savage youth is 12/12" and Boydes reduced length of pull reduced is 12 3/4. That 1/4" can make a lot of difference in comfort.
I have noticed that it seems to be a trend that the length of pull has increased a little over the years, in all manufacturers. Could it be a ploy to make an extra dollar by forcing buyers to purchase a new stock to fit their shooter as an extra, knowing full well that the stock on the original offer won't fit the average person. Surly it would be easier to make a shorter length of pull to suit the shorter to average guys then sell different length butt pads to suit those that require it! Ruger has just done that with their New American!
Food for thought!
Boydes sales I hope you pick up on this. les
I took the opportunity to order a LH stock for my Axis now that they are having a sale on them, bringing them under the magic 100$ limit for international orders. Standing by the mailbox waiting ... and waiting ...
sorry about my delay in posting back, but I might have solved my problem to a certain extent. After a bit of a hassle, I managed to get a rail specifically for the edge to move my scope back, which I have done. The butt and scope fitting is now is sorted. my only grief now is that it is a little front heavy, so is not balanced as it should be, but near enough. At least I can now pick the rifle up and the scope is as it should be, and I am not having to climb up into it.
There is a lot of talk about bedding, but I am sure the new stocks do not need it now. Mine come with the red safety dot as mentioned in the past, but it now sits on two plates. I have not seen them in any pics in the past in this forum. Must be a new development from Boydes in this respect.
The rifle now shoots a lot better, as I am getting to know it more. I have used up the hand loads that were developed for me and I am going to stay with Belmont in psp 55gn, and Ausi oudoor 69 gn. Regardless what goes down the spout, it all shoots the same, but Fiocchi out performs them all, but the huge price difference does not warrant it for my purpose.
I am so impressed that I have purchased a sav .22 mark 2, and on selling my Ruger 10.22. There is no comparison!
Thanks to all who have posted on various topics in this thread. - les
Well I got my tracking number today so I blame Frank for his review ....Thanks Frank, I chose the camo in the prairie hunter instead of the classic though.:yield:
You'll like it. If yours is as tight fitting as the two I bought, you'll be happy.
The camo is pretty nice looking. Wait until you see it in the sunlight. Even the stainless steel trigger guards were nicely made. The only complaint I have is that miserable recoil pad. I swear it reminds me of a piece of tire cut & shaped then screwed in place. It's about as hard as an old BF Goodrich tire.
Good luck with it.
Thank you.My original plan was to buy it with the custom Limbsaver pad option. They had the prairie hunter /camo in stock, ship 1 -2 days and the waiting is always the hardest part so I didn't wait for the limbsaver option. The .223 recoil isn't a problem. I really like the recoil pad on the original stock and would have liked to have it on the new stock..........
Well the stock and accutrigger was delivered today.It took a little grinding but the trigger is sweet. I am liking the new setup, going to look into a higher powered scope next.
http://s20.postimg.org/rii22pje5/DSCN2116.jpg
I'm not all that excited about the stock. It has a few blems, gouged where my Palm grips ,a gouge in the screw inlet which you don't see but I know it's there plus a couple of crease dents in the bottom of the tear drop grip and stock.I've sanded most of it out,going to look into another stock,keep this for the harsher coyote hunting where it'll bound to get dinged up anyways.l don't mind the pad on it but the .223does not have the recoil......
If at any time you are not completely satisfied with your stock out of the box - please contact our Customer Service department about a replacement before modifying or altering at home. We take great pride in our work, and want to ensure our customers are 100% satisfied! Any questions just let me know!!
Best Regards ~ Jen
thank you for the reply.I will be ordering another in a couple of weeks once I figure out what I want.I'm good with the stock or I would have looked into sending it back before I put sandpaper to it.I'm sorry my post appeared as it did. It was not my intention.
No worries - your post did not come across badly at all! I just wanted to make sure that everyone knows that if at any time they are not satisfied to give us a call, we are more than willing to work towards a solution that works for everyone :-) Glad to hear that it was a relatively easy fix and that you are in the market for another!! :biggrin-new:
got my Thumbhole in Nutmeg today :) Looks nice
hopefully have time to put it on tomorrow and go shoot, supposed to be 80 here in SE Iowa
finally got it put on
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I notice there is a Boyd's rep contributing to this thread. Would it be possible to get a rear view picture of the classic and prairie hunter? I'm looking at ordering either the classic or prairie but do not see any information on the difference in cheek swell between the two styles. The pictures from the left and right do not show much difference in the two other than the prairie seems to be trimmed down behind the cheek riser. The prairie looks like it is thicker but it's hard to be sure from the side. If you could post a picture of the two from the rear that would be awesome.
I have the prairie hunter in walnut with the checkering and a limb saver. I love it so far. i have the Timney trigger as well and the stock slid on with no modifications. Great work Boyds
Just got my Classic / Axis / Nutmeg / .223 today and it was at the range within an hour. Before firing the first shot, I noticed the problem: The magazine refuses to lock into place. I looked closely, and it appears that the locking plate at the fore end of the magazine well is set too far back - I can post a picture later, if needed. Somebody PLEASE let me know if there's an easy fix for this - It looks like the only honest fix would be to move the front plate forward just a wee bit. I think it's set too far back to consider it OK to shave away at it without adverse affect on its structural integrity.
This stock is otherwise EXACTLY what I've been needing, and it really needs to get busy shooting.
I don't have a bopyd's stock, but with the 2 SSS stocks I have the magazines when new have always been a little snug at first. Just needed an extra tap with the palm of my hand to seat them. Also with rounds in the mags seat the mag with the bolt open and to the rear.
This might be an obvious question...but have you contacted Boyds? I would definetly do this before modifying anything. They seem to be top notch on their customer service and l'm sure they will make it right or let you know what you need to do. Btw..i have no problems inserting or locking either one of my magazines in place on my Axis with Boyds tacticool
Good Morning!
I have forwarded your question on to our Quality/Engineering department - as soon as I have an answer/solution for you I will let you know. Could you please PM me with your order number and contact info in case our head of Quality would like to visit with you personally! Hope to get your issue resolved and get you back at the range as quickly as possible!!!
Best Regards ~ Jen
I ordered mine on 04/01 (Featherweight Thumbhole/Pepper) for my Axis .308 and didn't notice till last week that it's doing the same thing. No matter how hard I tap or even with the bolt removed, it will not seat and lock in place. I tried calling Boyds today a little after 9:00am CDT and got a recording stating the "Business Hours". I have to say, I'm a bit disappointed.
Thumbhole for my Axis .223 fit perfect and no problems with the clips fitting, haven't shot it yet because of the weather/rain but all 4 of my clips click in
I just got my Boyds Prairie Hunter Stock in a couple days ago.
Over all it looks pretty good. I went with the Prairie hunter. The only difference I can tell from the Prairie Hunter and Classic is the Prairie Hunter is more contoured behind the cheek riser. It looks like they are the same width and height.
The change over was pretty easy. I had to fiddle with the barrel to get it to centre in the stock. It's free floated now that it's centred.
It added a fair bit of weight to the axis when compared to the plastic stock but I was expecting this.
The stock recoil pad is super thin. No doubt it will have to be changed.
The finish on the stock is nice and the colour is good.
The trigger that came with it was useless as the hole didn't line up at all. The only solution would be to drill it out but then you would also have to countersink for the head. I purchased a Stainless Steel trigger and when I put it on, the one edge of the trigger was lifting approx 1/8. I took it off and looked at it. There was a huge boss on the bottom from the manufacturing process. After filing it down and sanding smooth it now fits proper. There is no more rocking and the holes line up perfectly.
The rifle feels pretty loose in the stock when assembling. Before tightening the bolts there is considerable side to side play and rocking. It's almost like the inletting is a different diameter than the action. This is what causes the barrel to move side to side in the fore end.
Overall I'm not disappointed in the purchase but I'm not overly ecstatic with it either. It's a decent enough starting platform but I have no doubt it will require further amounts of time and finances before it becomes a consistent and usable firearms.
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Putting together my shopping list and was planning to update an Axis XP 308 synthetic stock with a Boyd's stock when I came across a page indicating that there is a Tacticool stock for the Axis:
TACTICOOL SAVAGE AXIS DBM LONG ACTION FACTORY BARREL CHANNEL BLACK TEXTURED FINISH
http://www.boydsgunstocks.com/product.htm?pid=103271
This should fit a new Axis XP right???
Jasta is correct. Here is what you want so you don't have to hunt for it.
http://www.boydsgunstocks.com/produc...03273&cat=1215
I call Boyd's, they told me to send back the stock. After they received it yesterday, they say everything is fine but there have been a handful of people with the same issue as mine and that I would need to make a modification to the stock after I get it back. I'm sorry but spending $100 for something and then having to modify it to make it work is beyond disappointing. I have asked for a refund and will not do any further business with Boyd's.
In all honesty $100 is about the lowest you will pay for a good stock. So some slight modifications can definitely be worth while as you will still be saving a lot of money for your rifle to shoot better. I went with a stoch from SSS though and paid more, but it's a perfect fit every time if Fred does the work.
Recently I ordered a customized pepper featherweight thumb hole for my .308 axis, and by a mistake of my own, chose the long action on accident. Fortunately for me, upon inspection of the original plastic stock I came to the realization that the only difference between the calibers was the plastic trigger guard. Anyway, what I ended up doing was milling a piece of graphite-filled jute material from where I work and gorilla gluing it in..and TADA! the clip fit in perfect and works fine. The only other thing was that the barrel wasn't free floated when I screwed it in - but I will just do some light sanding and it should be fine. They make a great stock, it looks great.
Ps. I have the dimensions of the piece if anyone else needs them/ I work at a full machine shop, we could probably produce these as an aftermarket item if there is enough need
I just got my Tacticool from Boyds for my .308 Axis SR.
It doesn't fit very well.
The barrel is pretty far from being free floated and the action doesn't fit that well either.
I am going to have to break out my serious wood working tools to get this bad boy where it needs to be, AND will most likely need to bed the action to get it to fit right.
I'm not complaining for a hundred bux, but it IS going to be quite a bit of work.
Slightly disappointing considering most people report a drop in fit.
Has anyone put a Pro Varmint on an axis heavy barrel (factory) .308? I wonder how much sanding the channel would need?
Got mine in today... I'm very happy with it. It is nicer than this cell phone photo makes it look.
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/c...ps07911b96.jpg
I didn't put one on a factory HB, but I sanded the channel for a Shilen 243 varmint barrel. It was probably half an hour to an hour of time with a few bits of thick dowel and various grades of sandpaper. I say "various grits, but really I roughed it in with 60 grit, started going over it with 120, and realized it was just going to be painted over and covered by the barrel anyway, so I finished it with 60. Later HB projects seemed to go faster.