Thomae: Considering your fondness for the 6.5 bore size, plus to the point, erudite, and cool posts, I get the feeling that if we lived closer to one another we probably would be fairly good friends. Just sayin! :very_drunk:
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Thomae: Considering your fondness for the 6.5 bore size, plus to the point, erudite, and cool posts, I get the feeling that if we lived closer to one another we probably would be fairly good friends. Just sayin! :very_drunk:
reg ole rem 870 express hand pump.
WBM: thanks for the positive reinforcement. I'ver never been to New Mexico, but if I go, I'll try to remember to look you up. If you are ever in the central PA area, let me know ahead of time and I'll try to get together over a few beverages (adult or otherwise) and some food. A loaf of bread, a jug of wine, and some shootin' buddies...what could be better?
Thermaler, from what I have heard (and I don't own a 300 WM and it's been a long time since I shot one) and from what I recollect, there is a difference in the "feel" of shotgun recoil and rifle recoil. Shotgun recoil is a hard push (Sometimes it feels like a push from a big foot with a heavy boot on) and rifle recoil tends to be sharper, more like a hammer blow. I speak is sweeping generalizations here, not fact-based number crunching.
I also recall reading somewhere that the diameter of the projectile changed the apparent feel of recoil. I think it also has to do with the burn rate of the powder to some extent. My recollection is that a smaller diameter projectile in a cartridge that produces XX pounds of recoil will feel harder or have more "impact" than a larger diameter projectile with the also produces XX recoil.
I guess the upshot is that recoil is very subjective and your experiences with a shotgun might or might not be an indication of how you perceive the 300 WinMag recoil.
That said, I am by no means trying to steer you away from 300 WinMag if that is your choice...just trying to work the discussion around to as many of the different factors that folks consider when selecting a cartridge and building a rifle.
no sweat--appreciate your input. The best thing to do would simply go out and fire one I guess.
In an article in American Hunter a couple of years ago, David Draper tested out one of Cabelas 50th Anniversary rifles in 300 H&H Magnum. The rifle was a Ruger #1. He said that he was expecting for the recoil to be punishing but to his surprise it was a shove rather than a healthy kick and was actually not unpleasant to shoot. He cited the tapered case as one reason for the more mild recoil. Looking at the accuracy and overall performance of the caliber it makes you wonder what is so much better about the 300WM.
I have a tapered case 375H&H Magnum, if the tapered case tames the recoil, I'd hate to shoot one in Ackley improved.. I built a 300 win mag long range gun from a Stevens 200. I put a heavier stainless barrel and a JP Tank style brake on it. The felt recoil with the original stock is similar to shooting a 243 with this brake on it. No one will occupy the position next to me at the range after the first time though due to the drastically enhanced noise at the firing position. I'm still working up loads for it, but even with the factory stock it is doing very well for me. I gave my previous 300 win mag to my son due to the recoil issues. It was a Remington, being able to customize the savage family of rifles much more easily keeps me building them. Good luck with the long range project.
These last two posts are more what I had in mind--much appreciated! I'mprobably alraedy "overdosing" on the huge array of rifles I already have, but for some reason I REALLY like anything based on 30 caliber. ; )
As far as accuracy goes here is a video of a mates custom 300 win mag doing its thing on a culling session.
It was custom built for the job and is wearing a Schultz and Larsen suppressor.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vey05ltuZpE
Some nice accurate long range shots.
That is way cool, that suppressor makes it sound like a 22LR--though I think I'll settle for a good brake. Does anyone have any idea how much of an advantage a 26" and/or heavy barrel brings to the table over a conventional 24" light barrel? I could probably get my foot in the door cheaply with something like the 111 xp or savage weather hunter with SS barrel but they're 24" I believe, though I don't think they're threaded for a muzzle device.
Well after much angst and exploring the internet halls of wisdom (possibly a contradiction in terms) I am pleased to announce that I have a Thompson Center Dimension 300 win mag on the way. Please don't throw me off the forum thomae for posting a temporary defection from the Savage brotherhood--I'm still active with several savage rifles and reloading for them! : ) At the very least, I'll let you guys know if I end up in the ER after letting some rounds go. : )
It's all good. I own a number of firearms that are not Savage brands. Whatever is right for you is the rifle you should have.
Well, for 3 short hours I had that "new gun a-coming buzz" but as it turns out it's not be. I just found out that there is a massive recall by Thompson Center for many of their rifle lines manufactured prior to June of this year for malfunctioning safety(s). I ordered the rifle through Cheaper-than-dirt who tell me they have no way of verifying the serial/date of manufacture prior to order fulfillment by their distributor. This seems odd to me--but that's the way it is and I cancelled the order--even if Thompson takes care of the problem I'd just as soon not buy a problem child from the get-go.