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Sounds like you have a good start, you know the gun will shoot for you, now just find the combo...
What is MV with the 168s with the Varget? Is it close to max for your rifle?
I have been told by many senior BR shooters, in skill and time shooting, that CCI BR primers are the very same as the standard CCIs....I certainly can't tell the difference in MV, ES, or anything else. Have you tried Fed match or mag primers? With certain powder & bullet combos I have increased MV without increasing powder by changing primers.
I would suggest only changing one thing at a time, but of course stick with the same bullet while doing so...sounds like you only need a recipe for your rifle
I don't shoot IBR type BR anymore and never shot a 308 Win, but I still shoot Longrange comp for fun/bragging rights, things like golf balls at known distance & unknown distance and the less shots to hit it the better:cool:
Good Shooting
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Let me guess, the problem with tumbling bullets is with the 168 SMK?
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Loneranger04: Below is a couple of conversations from another site about Berger 168 hybrids--
"I shoot them in my .308. They have made it a whole new experience at long range (800-1000). I use them with RL15 & I jump mine .020 for best results in my rifle. I absolutely love them. I shoot my SMK's as foulers now. The Bergers a little spendy but they sure do perform."
"I just won my first 1000 yard F T/R match using these bullets. They shoot very well and hold elevation better than the 185 LRBT from my rifle. I'm driving them hard with a stout load of Varget, Lapua brass, and soft seating the bullet. I've shot a lot of the 185's but these are my new "go to" bullet. I'm really impressed with them..."
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Thanks Fubar. Now I wish that I would have ordered some of those. And "yes" I do believe that they were 168 gr smk. We've got a picture of one of the steel targets with the imprint in the paint of a the bullet hitting sideways. There are just so many different components to try. I started with Winchester standard large rifle primers but my SDs were double digit. Started off from the beginning using Lapua brass.
Can't wait to see how these next batch of bullets shoot. Kinda hopin' that the 155 gr SMK Palmas shoot great. Would like to have a little lighter recoil with the lighter bullets. Also they are a little cheaper than the Bergers.
Oh, I haven't chrono'd the 168s yet. I had the 175 SMKs running pretty close to 2700 fps with only 44.3 gr of Varget. At least that's what the CED pro read. Seems a little fast according to some of my other loads though. I'll have to varify my actual dope compared to JBMs calculations. Hopefully I can get someone to spot me at the match.