Stangfish I agree. We have beat this to death. Lets give it a rest. To each his own.
El Lobo
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Stangfish I agree. We have beat this to death. Lets give it a rest. To each his own.
El Lobo
The OP's question was specifically about a shouldered barrel on a Savage. He got his answers.
Leonardo stated he'd put a nut on a Mauser. I pointed out that a Mauser doesn't headspace the way a Savage or for that matter any other rifle does.
Herr Mauser's design requires machine work to set the headspace and a shoulder or a nut is unnecessary on that particular design.
A good gunsmith will cut a shoulder on a Mauser about .002" more after the breech contacts the C-ring (H-ring in some later or cheaper Mausers/clones) and fitting the barrel results in a crush of that .002" so that the shoulder contacts the receiver face. The breechface/C-ring interface is what establishes headspace though.
Is it hard for you to get the tools neccesary to swap the barrels yourself in Australia? Personally I'd never spend the money on a lathe because I am too cheap...
I also wouldn't pay more for a shouldered barrel vs a non shouldered barrel again because I am cheap...
If I could get a shouldered barrel headspaced for my Savage action for the same or less than buying a pre-fit then I would. Because I'm cheap.
Thanks for all the replies. I must admit I have never looked into what it would cost or take to get the tools required to swap barrels here, only because it is something that I would not do. It does appear that everything required to do that is a lot cheaper in the US than it is here. That includes the price of dies for different calibres as well. For that reason, once I have made my calibre selection that is what the rifle will stay as. I can certainly see the advantages of barrel swapping but it's just something I wouldn't be bothered with.
Once again thnks very much.
Oooh oooh, one more reply.
It's not like you have done anything permanent. You can have barrels both ways for your action. It is not hard to change, righty tighty lefty loosey type thing.
Jim
Unless of course the mauser happens to be pre 98 then nuts away .seems like we all have a deep passion, obsession with mausers last count was over 856 mauser military ,not counting sporters , but i think i mite buy another at this weekends gunshow.
Gary
Nothing like going from a .308 to a 30-06 in less than 5 minutes, or 30-06 to 270, or, or , or
I really don't "get" the nutless benefit (Unless we are talking about my dog.) The way I see it, you still have to screw the barrel down to the receiver, and you would still have to line up some witness marks as it would be easy enough to over\under tighten a barrel. Right now I simply scribe a witness mark on my barrels...and tighten down the nut....and go shoot.
That way I save any gunsmithing fees for re-chambering\re-boring. I'm not really seeing a benefit here.
And with the new smooth nut.....well?????
No indexing required. It's just a little faster easier without the nut (no head spacing needed). I've shot matches with my switch barrel rig just snapping tight by hand. Taking off requires a barrel vice, they get a little tighter after you shoot. I still like the option with the nut.
Jim