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In the electronic edition of Rifle magazine, Terry Wieland has reported on Hornady's legitimisation of the 17AckleyHornet and its field testing in a pair of Savage rifles.
Any thoughts what they may have been?
Cheers...
Con
I'm going to guess that one of them was probably a model 25, or maybe both of them were. No need to chamber it in one of the larger and heavier model 12's. I guess we will see on Nov. 2nd when Savage unveils their 2012 products on their Facebook page.
Got a link to that? Didn't see it in a search, maybe for fee?
Looks like it is advertized in 2012, the model 25, along with a couple other new calibers.
Since it is so new a question is the 17 Hornet a rim or center fire rifle
Not really a new cartrdige - just a legitimization of the old wildcat. It is center fire. Here is a link to Hornady's page:Quote:
Originally Posted by Balljoint
http://www.hornady.com/store/Superfo...armint-NewAmmo
The 17 Hornet will be available in select Model 25's for 2012.
Well now Iknow what my new woodchucker will be!!!
Awesome! I had a 17 Hornet built on a Contender years ago, still kicking myself for getting rid of it. Such a sweet shooting cartridge and easy on powder. Conserve resources, shoot a 17. ;)
I'd probably buy one of these....even though I currently have a "converted" Stevens in a 17 Fireball. It would free up the Stevens action.....for something else!!! ;D
I talked to customer service at savage today about the 17 hornet they said it will be available in the model 25. Also the model 25 is going to have a barrel nut now. I could not get any other specifics from the lady I talked to. I think that is some great news!
Savage already has the 17 Hornet in the M-25 listed on their web site. http://www.savagearms.com/firearms/models/ Just click the Lightweight Varmiter Series and anyone of the 3 listed are in the 17 Hornet. Just pick what you want.
I clicked the link, but the rifles are not yet shipped out. But when they are...yeah...for sure there will be one in my safe!!!
i will get one to.
So......as my Grandmother use to say to me....."What's the matter with you Boy??...You got ant's in your pants???" Do we have any idea when Savage will actually ship these Model 25's in the 17-Hornet caliber? 'Cause I am simply itchin to get my grubby little paws on one....and shoot it....and reload the cartridge ....and shoot it again, and again, and again.
Oh....and buy a scope for it.....'n stuff. 'n stuff. 'n stuff.
Anyone know? Huh? Huh? Huh?
How about now?
Now?
Maybe Now?
I was told the ammo and dies will ship this month. ( Hornady ) The rifles will be Feb.--Apr. ( Savage ) One can only HOPE! Mark
In my latest Shooting Times magazine hornady has an add for the "17 Hornet".
They say it has comparable trajectory to a 55 gr .223 round. Should be a great walking gun for out to 300 yards, with only 6.4 inches of drop (with 200 yard zero).
I have loaded the 22 hornet before and the cases are so thin that I ruined a few. You have to be sure to have the bullet lined up very well before you try to seat it. I would still like to have one ;)
I was told the ammo still not in production yet but soon.
midsouth should have ammo available this week? supposedly cz and ruger will make one as well. can't wait to get a savage in 17 hornet as my 22 hornet is fun as heck.
A few nights ago I had a raccoon "visit" my patio. Well....he met a 20gr. Berger .17 Fireball at 4 feet right between the eyes. For sure it re-arranged his eyes.....but no real fur damage. And of course, DRT. That's the beauty of the 17. Deadly on fur bearing animals....but no destruction of the prime fur. I'm looking forward to Savage releasing there model 25. It will be a lighter than my current Stevens re-barreled in .17 Fireball.....plus I'll free up an action to make a....???????? ;D ;D ;D
So....... ;D ;D ??? ???....I have the itch to call Savage and ask 'em when they are gonna release the .17 Hornet.....but, I'm really trying to be an adult about it....and demonstrate that I have patience. BUT MAN.....IT'S REALLY TOUGH!!! Anyone know???
So is this 17 Hornet or 17 Ackley Hornet as the first couple posters seemed to think??
The ammo that Hornady is producing is for 17 Hornet, according to the advertisement I saw last month.
I just bought 500 rounds of Hornady 17 Hornet and I still can't find anyone that can tell me when the model 25 17 Hornet will be released from Savage.
Help
i was told by the end of March we will see.
I was told by Savage it was the end of Feb. Well...."The end has come and gone" (It's gonna be like a Mayan end of the world thing!!!) but no release yet!! Timbob....you must have been one of those guys who snatched up some of the ammo that Midway got in. I had it on my wish list.....but there supply came in and was sold out in one day!!!!
I'm waiting for the dies 'n brass.....I hate to buy factory ammo. I'm just a chepiee at heart!!!
Dave
I was one of those guys that bought 17 Honrnet from Midway. Lot of good it does with nothing to put it in.
Question-Do you know if the Ackley 17 Hornet is the same as the 17 Hornet? I did find a Cooper Arms in Ackley 17 Hornet. I called Cooper and they didn't have an answer.
Thanks
No, the 17 Ackley Hornet and the 17 Hornet are no the same thing. They both are made off the 22 Hornet case, but the 17 Hornet is basically a necked downed 22 Hornet and the 17 Ackley Hornet ressembles the K-Hornet.Quote:
Originally Posted by Timbob1
Yeah......what he said. ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by 1SHOT1KILL
I talked to Savage yesterday and the 25 has been pushed back to April/May now. :( Hope I can get one in time for hunting in November. (2012) >:( Mark
Crap.....April\May!!!!.....that sucks!! Just for "funzies" today I had a few 22 hornet brass pieces, so I took one of 'em and ran it into my 17 Fireball sizer die just to see how easy or hard the neck would size down. The neck sized down very easy. So, I would not be "scared" of buying 22 Hornet brass and sizing it down to 17 for reloading purposes.
Dave
Got my Guns and Ammo mag. in yesterday, Boddington does the article on Savage 25 in .17 hornet.
;D Yeah....and Bottington is a "Big Bore" gun nut. He did a pretty good....or I should say "fair" job of reviewing the new Savage. Anyway.....I'm still waiting with cash in hand to buy the plastic walking one.
I just hope this doesn't turn out to be like what happen when the "gun Mfg" went to release the 45-GAP ammo. I was waiting to buy a 1911 in 45-GAP....but the gun rags did all of the reviews about the 45-GAP ammo, then it actually took another year and a half before the gun makers released their 1911's that actually shot the stuff.
By then I already bought a new 1911 in 45ACP and never looked back.
But.....I think Savage has these made and in storage. (I would think anyway) I just want to get one so I have it ready to whack fox and other small furry things for this fall. Plus....I just need another excuse to "go to the range honey". ;)
:D
17 HMR was a 3 year wait! caseless .223 never happened. Hogue stocks were 7 years.
And the 5.7 X 28 too. Still wonder what their adversion is to an existing cartridge with almost the same footprint as the .17 or 5.7: as in .221fb? Have to admit, I aim to own one of the plastic 17's. Wouldn't that make a great Stryker caliber!
Dave, how is your .17 working on the savage action?
The 17 Fireball works OK. I do get occasional jams with it, but for the most part, the second and third rounds feed well. I have a CZ 221 Fireball detachable magazine that I have modified the Savage in order for it to accept the little cartridge. Even though the magazine holds 5, if I load more than 3 in the magazine I find that the spring tension is too much and the first few rounds will simply not load at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by appleseed
So, I'm looking forward to the Model 25 for a smooth functioning magazine, plus a bit smaller rifle to maneuver around....when hunting fox at night.
I stole your cz mag insert idea and it worked fine on the bigger action. Then, traded for a cz switch barrel from SinArms. I agree with you, the little savage 25 will be just right...especially on a stryker build!
Ha. Well....I didn't have a patent on the "idea." In fact, the idea came to me from reading all of the post on this forum. I like this place....it's one of the few that you don't get "blasted" if you post something really stupid. (not like I've ever done something like that :P)
I just read the G.A. review and I can't wait come on Savage lets get it done.
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;D Yup!! ;D
Well, Ok....here's what I did!!!.....I ordered 2 boxes of Hornady Factory ammo (I NEVER order factory ammo) for the .17 Hornet 'cause Midway had 'em in stock, then I also ordered the dies for the 17 Hornet, 'cause Midway had 'em in stock, then I just ordered another 50 pieces of brass on backorder for the .17 Hornet while I was at it.
So....I'll have all the "stuff" for a gun that doesn't exist yet!!!
It's an illness.
Dave
Don't feel too bad. I have all of that and a scope and Bi-Pods. All I need now is a sling. O Yah! I need the gun. Come on Savage. Mark
Well Mark......if they don't release the rifle, I'll either be forced to buy a CZ......or return my 17 Hornet dies....and fireform my brass into the 22 Hornet. One way or another....I'll have a rifle named after a flying stinging bug!!!
I have ammo dies and cases, Now where are the rifles? They have been advertised in several magazines so we know there have been some made and tested. Sure not much news out of Savage, some one should have some idea when they will be available.weewilly
well I have it all ammo and gun. I have given up on the Savage my son bought me a Ruger 77 target in 22-250. I'll see if next year they make the gun.Oh ya I got a BLR in 358 W. for a new deer rifle.
So at this point you can almost make your own 17 hornet as the ammo, dies, cases are all there.......now if they just had a chamber reamer.....lol
Well.....almost....I sent an email to Hornady last week asking them when they were going to release some reloading data for the 17 Hornet. I haven't got an answer yet. (No surprise!!!!)
The chamber reamer is available and you can get started reloading by reducing the 17AH loads and working up. Mark
Mark!!!....I knew that all along!!! ;) The reloading data I mean. ;D Thanks!! I never even gave that a thought!!! (Heck, just look at my Avatar and you can understand why :D)
Load data is available. A1680 looks to be the powder of choice.